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40% CASA staff increase whilst GA goes down

Old 10th Jul 2015, 01:36
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40% CASA staff increase whilst GA goes down

I notice in the Aviation section of today’s Australian newspaper an advertisement for a “Safety Specialist” for the Office of Airspace Regulation – the salary including superannuation is up to $150,000 a year.

It’s interesting that they ask for the successful candidate to “have knowledge of the Australian airspace system”. Not a mention of any knowledge of airspace in other leading aviation countries. Yes, no doubt that’s a great way of keeping the status quo and never putting in some extra E controlled airspace at places like Ballina so that safety could actually be improved.

But what’s more to the point is the staggering increase in CASA staff numbers in the period 2007 to 2014 …



This, of course, is a 40% increase!

And whilst these staff numbers have increased I have noticed that all of GA – that’s private, business and training – has dropped in flying hours.

My suggestion is that everyone closes down their GA business and goes and works for CASA. That will result in a great improvement in safety and there can’t be many people in GA earning $150,000 a year.
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 01:51
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Isn't that about 1 for every 14 aircraft?
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871 staff - that's enough for a small army! Maybe they could do something useful like invade NZ?

What do all of these people do?
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 02:22
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What do they do? They make work for each other.


Example:

CD 0712MS - Display of nationality marks, registration marks and aircraft registration identification plates



CASA wishes to advise that CD 0712MS - Display of nationality marks, registration marks and aircraft registration identification plates is now available for comment.

As a result of inadequacies and inconsistencies of the current Part 45 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations 1998 (CASR), the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) is currently undertaking a post-implementation review (PIR) to examine how the requirements could be revised to be more suitable to industry and modern aircraft operations. A working group of industry and CASA representatives was established to undertake this PIR and review proposed amendments.

The working group’s recommendations were incorporated in Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM) 0712MS, which was published for consultation in December 2010. Comments closed for this NPRM on 26 February 2011. Following a review of the responses to the NPRM, CASA instructed the proposed amendments to Part 45 of CASR.

A general exemption against compliance with certain requirements of Part 45 of CASR was issued to initially resolve some of the immediate problems and to avoid the need to issue exemptions for individual aircraft. The initial general exemption was issued on 31 January 2008 and then reissued on 27 January 2015 as CASA Instrument EX16/15. The exemption aligns with marking requirements already adopted by some other leading International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) contracting States, such as the United States of America (USA). These requirements apply only in respect of operations in Australia.

Following the release of the Report of the Aviation Safety Regulation Review and the Government response, CASA has identified several areas of Part 45 of CASR that could be improved via a three-tier structure. CASA therefore proposes to amend Part 45 of CASR to provide for the issue of a Part 45 Manual of Standards (MOS). A consultation draft of the Civil Aviation Legislation Amendment (Part 45) Regulation 2015, incorporating the issue of the MOS and the PIR's proposed amendments as well as a consultation draft of the MOS are now available.

All comments should be submitted via the Project Leader, Jurgen Schob by close of business 3 August 2015.

View this Consultation Draft on the CASA website: http://www.casa.gov.au/consultationopen
If I couldn't write the rules for markings in one A4 page in one day, I'd think I was a failure. Then of course I could adopt some other country's rules in toto. These CASA guys have strung the process out to Seven years so far.

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Good numbers Dick

I found this recently and does not seem to add up to the other published figures:
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Sunny said "These CASA guys have strung the process out to Seven years so far."

Actually it's more like 27 years, that's not a mistype, 27 years to rewrite the Reg's. Talk about a job for life.

Successive Ministers, Departmental Secretaries, CASA Boards and CEO's or whatever they deem to call themselves have b*ggerised around this rewrite and nobody is responsible. What a criminal shambles.

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It would be good if they advised specifically what the changes are...!
I should not have to search for same.

Is there a safety case and/or cost/benefit analysis?
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Is there a safety case and/or cost/benefit analysis?
Of course not, CASA are merely responding to the Minister's desire to see the ASRR implemented, and quite by coincidence, have picked a topic that requires more regulation, or disallowable instruments --- or regulation/quasi regulation.

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You should know what a safety threat rego. letters 1 cm or so too small represents -- all because of "metrication" and the fact that almost the only masks come from USA, and are in Imperial. ie: 150MM and 6" are slightly different.

Seriously, last time I looked, there were about 17 pages of paper to register an aircraft in Australia, including instructions.

In US, half a page, NZ same same.

Are Australian aviators really as dumb as that?? CASA must think so.

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Old 10th Jul 2015, 08:56
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The principality now has 871 Prince's.
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Well aviation must be booming in Australia to require a 40% increase in Staff.

Perhaps they should employ a few hundred more, given the time it takes them to process anything.

Two years to issue an AOC seems just a little long, compared to New Zealand's eight weeks. Perhaps the New Zealand CAA employ half the total population to get things done that quick.

Then again they probably have sensible regulations.
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Talk about LMAO so much it hurts. This thread is so funny.


ohhh…..hang on, thats reality
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Although I agree with the sentiment of the thread, it's
persons like Raptor090 who think aviation is just about pilots that make me shake my head in disbelief.
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Dick,
could you provide the link to the advert?

I think I might like to apply....I can't get that sort of money with 25 years experience in my own trade getting things right....might as well have a go at doubling my money getting things wrong.


jest aside, my first line was serious.

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Slightly deeper research shows that CASA employs 78 flying operations inspectors. (From the CASA annual report.) Assuming there are 40,000 pilots in Australia - that's 1 to 512. Which is less than the police to public ratio previously mentioned.

The total staff level of CASA is 871. The FAA employs 45,000 (of which are 36,000 are ATC). Transport Canada employs 5,500 people.

To put it into perspective - CASA has national oversight, not just NSW. There are 23m people in Australia - so there is 1 CASA employee for every 26,406 Australian citizens. Hardly an outrageous ratio, as has been previously misrepresented.

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To put it into perspective - CASA has national oversight, not just NSW. There are 23m people in Australia - so there is 1 CASA employee for every 26,406 Australian citizens. Hardly an outrageous ratio, as has been previously misrepresented.
you must be a CAsA stooge to think that.
most of those 26,406 australian citizens have absolutely no involvement in aviation so why quote that number.
bullsh*t statistical justification at its sorry best.
hang your heads in shame CAsA at the never ending injustice of it all.
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 13:25
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Only recent RAAF personnel with no GA experience will be considered!

I'm not joking!
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 13:31
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It's just a comparison. Most of the 7.4m people who live in NSW don't break the law. So, is a police v population ratio any more relevant as a benchmark?
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I'm told that CAsA field staff never work alone.
they always appear in pairs.

so expect the staff numbers to double over time.
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HIALS is either a troll or a malicious CASA employee. One of businesses discoveries is "benchmarking" which is a process of comparing non dimensional measurements "metrics" between organisations, locally or internationally.

This is a well understood process. I did some of it in the telecommunications industry before Telstra was privatised.

I wouLd suggest CASA couldn't possibly compete internationally and is a glaring example of excessive red tape and inefficiency.
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HIALS is either a troll or a malicious CASA employee.
Go easy there Sunfish, that doesn't follow at all. Why is it that if anyone disagrees with an anti-CASA point they get slagged?
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