PC 12 incident – Cobber Pedy.
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Creampuff, how can CVD be an issue? It occured during daylight hours and at an airport with no PAPI.....?
ALA now known as "COPPER PEDY'.
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Copper Pedy is gold – I was toying with Cropper Pedy; as in come a. etc.
Don't think it matters who the unfortunate individual was; I expect the pilot, is a skilled, experienced, properly trained individual; which makes the incident more operationally interesting. A professional landing a good way short of the threshold is a rare event, the conditions on the day and the configuration are of interest. I have been in dusty, smoky, gusty conditions where the light and particles in the air created a weird, almost surreal, certainly unnatural quality, which rendered all but the last hundred feet to runway useless for 'reliable' visual appreciation of speed, glide path and aiming point.
At face value, there seems little for the PIC to be ashamed of, except if the 'go-around' clues were wilfully disregarded, but even then it's easy to be fooled and modern Vnav can be mismanaged. Anyway – only idle speculation from me, the curiosity bump itcheth.
Aye well – we shall wait, the long wait until the ATSB deign to pass on their final report. But it is, you'll admit a fascinating event.
Don't think it matters who the unfortunate individual was; I expect the pilot, is a skilled, experienced, properly trained individual; which makes the incident more operationally interesting. A professional landing a good way short of the threshold is a rare event, the conditions on the day and the configuration are of interest. I have been in dusty, smoky, gusty conditions where the light and particles in the air created a weird, almost surreal, certainly unnatural quality, which rendered all but the last hundred feet to runway useless for 'reliable' visual appreciation of speed, glide path and aiming point.
At face value, there seems little for the PIC to be ashamed of, except if the 'go-around' clues were wilfully disregarded, but even then it's easy to be fooled and modern Vnav can be mismanaged. Anyway – only idle speculation from me, the curiosity bump itcheth.
Aye well – we shall wait, the long wait until the ATSB deign to pass on their final report. But it is, you'll admit a fascinating event.
Oddly enough, people with color vision deficiency or color blindness can often see things that normal sighted people can't. It's a bit like when you put on polarized sunglasses.
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FCOL; Creampuff was being whimsical and very tongue in cheek with the 'CVD' reference, not literal. the Colour Vision Deficiency (CVD) is well and truly covered and explained – HERE – and – HERE - .
Creamy simply saved lots of pages where the usual 'arguments' get trotted out......
Now what we have here is a perfectly healthy, professional pilot who has, in bad conditions landed short of the runway threshold. If it can happen then we need to understand the why and how of it happening; lest we repeat the incident.
CP -"Clearly the runway wasn't wide enough, the aircraft's type design and maintenance standards weren't high enough and the crew's training and competence standards weren't high enough.
I anticipate CVD may have been a factor as well
I anticipate CVD may have been a factor as well
Now what we have here is a perfectly healthy, professional pilot who has, in bad conditions landed short of the runway threshold. If it can happen then we need to understand the why and how of it happening; lest we repeat the incident.
CASA Viability deficient?
Only you know what I'm talking about 
