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Kharon 30th Sep 2014 20:22

PC 12 incident – Coober Pedy.
 
Surprised our resident 'prang spotters' missed this one, Serious incident, 23 Sept 2014 - AO-2014-156.

The why's and wherefores, from an operational standpoint should provide some interesting lessons. From the scant information provided you could call it a CFIT and the pathway to a CFIT event is always worth examining, in detail.

Anyone got any additional information?, the 'actual' wind, visibility and weather at the time would be a good place to start.

Added ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~

BoM - YCBP : Nil wind data for 23/09/2014.

September - Highest max wind gust - : WSW 78 KpH (42 knots): 9 AM S 50 KpH (27 knots) : 1500 WSW 56 KpH (30 knots).

Clever, Very Droll boys......:D...:D...:D

Creampuff 30th Sep 2014 20:53

Clearly the runway wasn't wide enough, the aircraft's type design and maintenance standards weren't high enough and the crew's training and competence standards weren't high enough.

I anticipate CVD may have been a factor as well.

rutan around 30th Sep 2014 21:40

Creamy
CVD?????????? Control Valve Detent??? Chemical Vapor Disposition??? Cardio Vascular Disease??? I'm confused . Which one is it? Or are you inferring too much chemical vapor disposition may have led to a cardio vascular event which led to a control valve detent error? Plois expline? :E

Frank Arouet 30th Sep 2014 22:49

The runway width, which was previously considered dangerous by CAsA is now "un-dangerous" because of an exemption. (for Rex at least). The problem is, it wasn't long enough as the aircraft appears to have landed where the airstrip should have started. It could possibly be a CVD problem, but more likely the pilots log book was incorrectly filled in.

Jabawocky 1st Oct 2014 00:19

I will take a punt!

The report should come out with an extremely high quality number of reports of witnesses on board and at the aerodrome.

After all how many coppers does it take to write up an accident report?

Kangaroo strike and spears off runway? Winds shear and a blown tyre? Medical?

Could be any number of things. But there will be plenty of witness reports.

Amazing it did not make the papers! Especially when they are looking in all the holes in the ground for the remains of a homicide victim which they know is there somewhere.

Cessna 180 1st Oct 2014 01:49

I may be a bit limited, being from the country and all, but I don't actually understand anything anyone has written on this thread after the bit about "An incident at Coober Pedy!

Frank Arouet 1st Oct 2014 06:52

Take it from permalink post 1361 on this link. It may help a bit.


http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...review-69.html

Kharon 1st Oct 2014 07:06

C 180 - Or, better still, start (Click) –HERE – Post 1 - link to the incident. Coober Pedy has been 'in the news' lately, due to runway width issues....:ok:


ATSB "During an approach to runway 32 in gusty conditions, the pilot encountered reducing visibility due to dust, and a high sink rate. The aircraft touched down short of the runway and collided with a fence."

thorn bird 1st Oct 2014 07:23

Perfectly clear Kharon, the runway requires lengthening in the landing direction, I mean for goodness sake a rank amateur can see that, absolute waste of taxpayer money investigating any further!!

The council must be blackmailed...err sorry..convinced to find a few million more to not only add width, but extend the length in the landing direction, problem solved..Those bloody miners don't pay enough rates, I mean seen the price of opals these days?

Desert Flower 1st Oct 2014 08:47

Cobber Pedy no - Coober Pedy yes. And the aircraft belongs to the SAPOL Airwing. I know both of the pilots well - now I'm wondering which one it was. Maybe that's why one of them was in the C402 a few days ago!

DF.

Kharon 1st Oct 2014 09:32

Sorry DF – I've tried to fix that typo four or fives times now, but it won't change ......:ugh:– seems Pprune prefers Cobber Pedy – has a certain ring to it.:O.

Alice Kiwican 1st Oct 2014 11:09

Sounds like an expensive landing!

papakurapilot 1st Oct 2014 11:31

Wait, What?
 
Creampuff, how can CVD be an issue? It occured during daylight hours and at an airport with no PAPI.....?

Desert Flower 1st Oct 2014 11:50


seems Pprune prefers Cobber Pedy – has a certain ring to it.
Yeah - sort of goes with the territory. G'day cobber! ;-) Reminds me of one pilot from my early days who always used to address FS that way!

DF.

kaz3g 1st Oct 2014 11:54

Not much to land on outside the fence that won't do a fair bit of damage.

Kaz

Desert Flower 1st Oct 2014 11:55


Sounds like an expensive landing!
From what I've been able to find out about the damage since I first saw this thread yes it will be!

DF.

Jabawocky 1st Oct 2014 12:31

More speed cameras will pay for the repairs or replacement. Just watch ;)

Seb will sell a new one to them :ok:

Desert Flower 1st Oct 2014 12:52


Seb will sell a new one to them
Given the damage, a new one might just be cheaper!

DF.

onetrack 1st Oct 2014 14:51

Bugger the PC-12, what about the fence? Don't you blokes realise how important it is to have fences intact and in working condition?? :rolleyes:

Squawk7700 1st Oct 2014 21:02

In Victoria the cops don't insure their cars; I wonder if this mob do the same with their aircraft !


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