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Old 20th Aug 2014, 05:50
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I just added that the 5 mile final calls are required.
It's "not less than 3nm".
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 07:13
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I give a 15, 10, 5 & 3nm call, just in case
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 07:54
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PS: I still give a rolling call, just in case someone is around

Why not add few more such as "lifting off now" and "200 feet gear is up and locked now" "500 feet checking all clear left and right now."
All good situational awareness for those in the circuit
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 12:13
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I like the "midfield crosswind" call. Seems that when you call this you can do whatever you want as everyone's interpretation seems different on what it is.
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 12:59
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What's wrong with doing anything you want??
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Old 22nd Aug 2014, 16:22
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TM,

"rolling call". Because the time of first taxing to departing can vary, with a rolling call anyone inbound now has a better idea time wise of where they'll be by the time you are setting track instead of waiting for you dep call, which if a jet could mean they'll be anywhere up to 7 miles out. While it's a double edged sword on busy freqs could be the last chance for conflicting traffic who missed your taxi call.
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Old 22nd Aug 2014, 21:12
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I make the absolute bare minimum calls - only those strictly required by CASA. Two calls for each of the inbound & outbound cases seems to cover it.

Then, if there is someone else in the area, I talk to them with other calls as appropriate. The rolling call is occasionally a good option in this case.

That said, reading this thread is like holding a public belly button inspection.

You learn something unique about everyone, but at the end of the day the things you've learned about each person are not especially useful.
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Old 23rd Aug 2014, 00:25
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Originally Posted by ANCPER
"rolling call". Because the time of first taxing to departing can vary, with a rolling call anyone inbound now has a better idea time wise of where they'll be by the time you are setting track instead of waiting for you dep call, which if a jet could mean they'll be anywhere up to 7 miles out.
Second-guessing "I think he should be there about now" shouldn't be part of it. If there is ANY doubt, the aircraft should call the other to find out where they are, or pre-empt by saying "give us a call when you start rolling".

While it's a double edged sword on busy freqs could be the last chance for conflicting traffic who missed your taxi call.
That is precisely why there are TWO distinct and separate calls before takeoff: the first when commencing taxiing, the second when entering the runway.
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