Light plane crash in the Barossa Valley S.A.
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Light plane crash in the Barossa Valley S.A.
Two people have been killed in a plane crash at Krondorf, near Nuriootpa in the Barossa Valley.
Police say the plane came down on a property on Krondorf Road.
The two people on board died at the scene.
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Police say the plane came down on a property on Krondorf Road.
The two people on board died at the scene.
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Jesus, what a mess.
Photos below from here: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1226944794032
Looks like a Tecnam P96 Golf, 24-4470.
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6368141&nseq=79
Photos below from here: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1226944794032
Looks like a Tecnam P96 Golf, 24-4470.
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6368141&nseq=79
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Probably not WX related, but today is a day to stay on the ground. Nearest TAF would be YPED....
EDINBURGH (YPED)
TAF YPED 252307Z 2600/2624
29014KT 9999 SHOWERS OF LIGHT RAIN BKN010
FM260100 32016KT 9999 SHOWERS OF LIGHT RAIN SCT025 SCT040
FM260800 34012KT 9999 SCT040
FM261400 35016G30KT 9999 SCT040
INTER 2600/2601 3000 SHOWERS OF MODERATE RAIN BKN008
INTER 2601/2606 5000 SHOWERS OF MODERATE RAIN BKN012
RMK
T 13 15 15 12 Q 1022 1021 1018 1017
SPECI YPED 260035Z AUTO 31013KT 9999 // SCT014 BKN020 14/11 Q1022
RMK RF00.0/000.0
TAF YPED 252307Z 2600/2624
29014KT 9999 SHOWERS OF LIGHT RAIN BKN010
FM260100 32016KT 9999 SHOWERS OF LIGHT RAIN SCT025 SCT040
FM260800 34012KT 9999 SCT040
FM261400 35016G30KT 9999 SCT040
INTER 2600/2601 3000 SHOWERS OF MODERATE RAIN BKN008
INTER 2601/2606 5000 SHOWERS OF MODERATE RAIN BKN012
RMK
T 13 15 15 12 Q 1022 1021 1018 1017
SPECI YPED 260035Z AUTO 31013KT 9999 // SCT014 BKN020 14/11 Q1022
RMK RF00.0/000.0
Comparing the elevation of Krondorf area, from Google Earth, approx. 800ft rising to over 1,800ft a little further East, with that TAF from YPED...
And the wing being found so far from the site.....
'VFR' flight into IMC....scudrunning.....?? Just Saying.....
Sad Event.
And the wing being found so far from the site.....
'VFR' flight into IMC....scudrunning.....?? Just Saying.....
Sad Event.
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The half wing was found some distance away between 300 and 1000 amongst trees. It eitehr lost it in flight or during initial impact prior to main impact. There is also talk of it having hit a tower.
Could well have been a failed prec-search.
Could well have been a failed prec-search.
Never good to hear about a fellow aviators demise. It does appear to be, going on reports weather related either VFR into IMC or perhaps hit something due poor vis.
However the "Tool of the Month" award must go to a David Lindner who with nothing constructive to say,managed to get himself on most of the networks news bulletins where he advised us that he had flown that very aircraft only weeks ago and found nothing wrong with it.
Well that's just beut! Must have made the families feel just great.
I must remember next time I see a Commodore written off in a fatal to advise all and sundry via the media that I have driven one just like it without crashing too.
However the "Tool of the Month" award must go to a David Lindner who with nothing constructive to say,managed to get himself on most of the networks news bulletins where he advised us that he had flown that very aircraft only weeks ago and found nothing wrong with it.
Well that's just beut! Must have made the families feel just great.
I must remember next time I see a Commodore written off in a fatal to advise all and sundry via the media that I have driven one just like it without crashing too.
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A Report on tonight's news said that a ground eye witness reported seeing the wings come off, possibly one wing and the flaps etc. from the other one?
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I was advised that the wing seperated along a rivet line several feet out from the fuselage. Witnesses would have been reporting seeing the wing outer section and flaps coming astray. Certainly a catastrophic structural failure caused potentially by the obvious.
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Tossas, the gentleman in question won't be the first or the last to be caught off-guard by a comment made in shock to one journalist. In the fullest version of his comments I've seen reported, he was obviously responding to a question about how the aircraft handled etc. In the best tradition of lazy sensationalism, that bit got edited out while the throwaway line about having flown the aircraft last week was retained...and picked up repeatedly by other outlets. Not a great look, I'll grant. But I doubt he set out to have a silly observation plastered over the media.
A terrible tragedy, and not obvious what happened. Over-stressing during attempted recovery, or a collision during a precautionary landing (mentioned by XXX) look like the starting points, as most are noting. But a shocking time for recreational aviation recently.
A terrible tragedy, and not obvious what happened. Over-stressing during attempted recovery, or a collision during a precautionary landing (mentioned by XXX) look like the starting points, as most are noting. But a shocking time for recreational aviation recently.
Got it in one tecman, even experienced pollies get caught out on a regular basis. Frankly, the most intelligent use of a TV journo I've seen recently, was as a target for an esky full of water - Ch9 last night
Back to the incident though, that sort of scenario where an aircraft sheds vital bits whilst airborne is the sort of thing that visits at 3am, making you question whether one of those red handles in the cockpit might not be a good idea after all.
Back to the incident though, that sort of scenario where an aircraft sheds vital bits whilst airborne is the sort of thing that visits at 3am, making you question whether one of those red handles in the cockpit might not be a good idea after all.
Sorry I can't agree with the two above. If he had been an 18yr old still wet behind the ears allowances may be made, but he wasn't. My guess in his 50's so should have known better. But even if he was a kid what was he trying to achieve? Was he a witness to the tragedy who could shed some light on what happened? No, so other than..look at me I'm a pilot and flew that very aircraft, I can't see what his motive was. I am well aware that at scenes like this the media mingle around the onlookers trying to get someone go on air and say something. Anything will do as it all takes up news time.But they can't zoom in on you if you don't let it be known that you also have flown that aircraft and a pilot etc. What this clown did by saying what he did is imply that the pilot must have stuffed up because there was nothing wrong with the aircraft.
How do you think that made the families of the deceased feel. Not to mention there has not been an investigation into the cause yet.
Now probably the pilot did err and it is one thing to ponder the cause on here away from the general public,but quite another to say it on camera to all and sundry.
As a wise old saying goes...better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
How do you think that made the families of the deceased feel. Not to mention there has not been an investigation into the cause yet.
Now probably the pilot did err and it is one thing to ponder the cause on here away from the general public,but quite another to say it on camera to all and sundry.
As a wise old saying goes...better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt.