Lilydale Bonanza Crash Lands
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So you expert Wallies who postulated that the gear had been retracted are most likely wrong. Armchair wannabe experts, all on this thread.
Disgusts me, some of the comments I see following mishaps. and not just on this thread.
Disgusts me, some of the comments I see following mishaps. and not just on this thread.
Looks like the actuating rod for the left wheel has snapped to me but I don't know anything except this does happen occasionally in the Bo and it is unrelated to the landing.
"Don't know what to call him . .. but I think he's one of those . .. "
yep . . . too much pull your head in . . .. . . . too much you know SFA . . .etc etc . . does excite the mod man's irrits sooner or later
as old hands know , Barons, Bonanzas etc that featured in numerous oops!!! . . . due the particular placement of the small switches that actuate gear and flap, being selected by mistake. (they are not really 'levers' in the accepted sense of a lever.) For those who may not be familiar . .. .Mr Beech made the plastic mouldings so that flap is a little flap and gear is like a little wheel.
The thing to do is look at the different shape of those switches . . . . know by rehearsal that if you need to whip the gear up smartly your hand will go to the correct one without a moment's hesitation
Pulling the gear up on an early Mooney .. . now that's a lever ..
yep . . . too much pull your head in . . .. . . . too much you know SFA . . .etc etc . . does excite the mod man's irrits sooner or later
as old hands know , Barons, Bonanzas etc that featured in numerous oops!!! . . . due the particular placement of the small switches that actuate gear and flap, being selected by mistake. (they are not really 'levers' in the accepted sense of a lever.) For those who may not be familiar . .. .Mr Beech made the plastic mouldings so that flap is a little flap and gear is like a little wheel.
The thing to do is look at the different shape of those switches . . . . know by rehearsal that if you need to whip the gear up smartly your hand will go to the correct one without a moment's hesitation
Pulling the gear up on an early Mooney .. . now that's a lever ..
That's happened in the exact same spot more than once at a Lilydale over the last 20 years!! ( probably still some bits from the last excursion still covered in the dirt!! )
Land long on 18L with a tailwind or a bit fast .......and can't stop.........ground loop before leaping over the embankment.
Last time I saw one was a PA28 about 30 years ago. ( wow I just started to feel old
) I watched the silly bugga do it to, with my mouth hanging open and a "what the......"
Land long on 18L with a tailwind or a bit fast .......and can't stop.........ground loop before leaping over the embankment.
Last time I saw one was a PA28 about 30 years ago. ( wow I just started to feel old
) I watched the silly bugga do it to, with my mouth hanging open and a "what the......"
Just curious!
18L is 850 m x 30m grass according to the airfield info sheet I have but it's a couple of years old and they do change the length a bit depending on the surface conditions.
But it ain't that long landing an A36 if it's wet, especially with any tailwind....I know as I've landed A36's there day and night on that runway quite a few times in my younger silly days!!
If it's one of his own Roger will not be happy
But it ain't that long landing an A36 if it's wet, especially with any tailwind....I know as I've landed A36's there day and night on that runway quite a few times in my younger silly days!!
If it's one of his own Roger will not be happy
How the heck can one say that from that one picture ? An armchair expert ?
Just looking a the photo again and the white runway closed markers are in view, knowing LFS they couldn't put them out so fast so they must have been there already. I do recall seeing them there a month or two ago when I drove past.
Mmmmmm if he's landed on 18L and slid up the embankment trying to stop when the runway was already marked closed???????? Either that or he landed 18R and went left 30 deg towards his final resting postion?????
I'll have to dig around and see....
Mmmmmm if he's landed on 18L and slid up the embankment trying to stop when the runway was already marked closed???????? Either that or he landed 18R and went left 30 deg towards his final resting postion?????
I'll have to dig around and see....
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knowing LFS they couldn't put them out so fast so they must have been there
already.
Hope that the seller got the cheque cashed in time.....
But it begs the question, what was the instructor doing during all this? Hanging on to the back of it somewhere, it seems.
But it begs the question, what was the instructor doing during all this? Hanging on to the back of it somewhere, it seems.
Seems to happen most often on check rides, first solos, downwind landings, new aircraft and newly purchased aircraft.
I was on the Bay yacht racing at the time. Wind went from southeast to southwest rather smartly, but we could see what was coming in plenty of time..
Why the heck do a check ride in known unstable conditions?
Why the heck do a check ride in known unstable conditions?
Yep!
That nasty wind change on the bay from the southeast to the southwest would cause chaos at Lilydale!
Terribly unstable conditions for sure! Should have stayed in bed!
That nasty wind change on the bay from the southeast to the southwest would cause chaos at Lilydale!
Terribly unstable conditions for sure! Should have stayed in bed!
