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Xray Tango 19th Feb 2014 03:45

Lilydale Bonanza Crash Lands
 
Just listening to the radio and it seems another of the Lilydale Bonanza's has come to grief whilst an instructor was on board, EUB ended up in a barrell drain at the end of 18, very red faced instructor i would think.

The Green Goblin 19th Feb 2014 03:52

The local FOI out for some circuit practice again?

Shame about those darn flap and gear levers is those blasted Beechcraft.

Saratogapp 19th Feb 2014 04:28

Lilydale Bonanza Crash Lands
 
Two levers like in the old Mooneys?

Lancair70 19th Feb 2014 06:36

Sorry to read of another fine aircraft in a mishap, I hope its not terminal damage.

Dunno about you guys but I was taught to touch the req'd lever, visually confirm it was the right one, say it out loud and then move the lever.
As in, "Undercarriage (or Flaps as applicable), Identified and retract (or extended as applicable)
When I did this on a recent night VFR check, the senior instructor, who I'd not flown with before, commented on how he doesn't see/hear that action very often anymore but thought it should be taught.

MakeItHappenCaptain 19th Feb 2014 06:41

I'd suggest doing it with the speed as well.

Eg. "Flaps identified, below 85, Flaps 10"

It also reinforces the limiting speeds.:ok:

Lancair70 19th Feb 2014 06:47

Good idea Captain :ok:

I always check the speed obviously but don't say it out loud in the procedure.

AZNA 19th Feb 2014 07:06

http://i59.tinypic.com/264qdqg.jpg

This was floating around facebook.

Aussie Bob 19th Feb 2014 07:50

So you expert Wallies who postulated that the gear had been retracted are most likely wrong. Armchair wannabe experts, all on this thread.

Disgusts me, some of the comments I see following mishaps. and not just on this thread.

Looks like the actuating rod for the left wheel has snapped to me but I don't know anything except this does happen occasionally in the Bo and it is unrelated to the landing.

Jack Ranga 19th Feb 2014 07:53

You're surprised at the number of wankas on prune? Really............?

Aussie Bob 19th Feb 2014 07:57

Sorry Jack I forgot. If you ever want to see a tosser, read an accident thread.

Bounceferret 19th Feb 2014 08:02

Ouch!
How the hell did that happen??

VH-XXX 19th Feb 2014 08:16

We had some pretty intense rain (TS SHRA) in the afternoon today so it certainly could have contributed to adverse runway conditions.

Jack Ranga 19th Feb 2014 09:53

Can someone re-size that f@:;$&8 photo :ugh:

ForkTailedDrKiller 19th Feb 2014 10:05

Can someone who knows Lilydale s'plane me how anything above would put an aeroplane in that position?

Sorry, but I don't get it!

Dr :8

Bevan666 19th Feb 2014 10:45

Wet grass runway, wind change at touchdown (sudden tailwind) and went sailing off the end.

It'll buff out.

Wally Mk2 19th Feb 2014 10:55

Stop speculating you guys, yr gunna ruffle some feathers here & we can't have the fun police that wound up in here!:E
Anyway who cares it's fairly obvious the guys got out with only a bruised ego.

Gee 'JR' I like the panoramic view buddy:ok:


Wmk2

Jack Ranga 19th Feb 2014 10:58

Photo's great Wal, I can't read the posts mate :ok:

Wally Mk2 19th Feb 2014 11:02

You mean ya wanna read the rubbish on Prrune? I just come to look at the pictures, (& add a few words so I don't feel totally left out:E)you see we humans are into voyeurism are we not?:ok:
Windsock shows that perhaps during the final Ldg phase the wind swung around giving a strong tail wind, (now shows light winds as the mini front has passed when piccy was snapped)) nice wet grass, maybe floated a little. got the machine in the ground towards the end of the Rwy & a ground loop was attempted with the resultant collapse of the L/H gear & into the drain it goes. Prop looks intact from what can be seen but of course all of the above never really happened as this is PRrune:E



Wmk2

P.S....very good 'lumps', that's a whole other story right there:ok:

Lumps 19th Feb 2014 11:03

good heavens they forgot to cover the rego up

Jack Ranga 19th Feb 2014 11:16

The sky was angry today my friends :=


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