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Arnold E - Well, it would be interesting to hear of just one good justifiable reason to black out a rego after a crash. It just seems like "ar$e-covering" and deviousness to me. After all, 98% of the population today now have a phone with them at all times, that's capable of good pics - and those phone owners are ready and willing to share pics of exciting happenings, worldwide, at a moments notice. 
Once again, big call, young fella thought he was doing the right thing, nothing more than that.
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Arnold, your answer doesn't address my question, so I guess this means there's no good justifiable reason to cover up the rego, at any time?
So - you're effectively saying, "it seemed like a good idea at the time"? IMO, the move would only make any accident investigator suspicious, and possibly indulge in even more intense scrutiny of the whole scenario.
So - you're effectively saying, "it seemed like a good idea at the time"? IMO, the move would only make any accident investigator suspicious, and possibly indulge in even more intense scrutiny of the whole scenario.
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Arnold E - Well, it would be interesting to hear of just one good justifiable reason to black out a rego after a crash. It just seems like "ar$e-covering" and deviousness to me.
For company-owned aircraft, perhaps they don't want the media on their doorstep or hounding the office girl for a comment. Both understandable to me.
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While the person covering the Rego probably thought they were helping, the problem is, their actions have now attracted attention, additional to the crash, both in this forum and in the mainstream media.
So now when the journo fronts, after asking How come this plane keeps crashing? They get to ask, How come you tried to cover it up? (I'm trying to think like a journalist with the questions.)
So now when the journo fronts, after asking How come this plane keeps crashing? They get to ask, How come you tried to cover it up? (I'm trying to think like a journalist with the questions.)
Make note to self. Use white paint to cover rego, not black.
My understanding is that it was a nice very very low time privately owned Chieftan which has a history of only one other incident which was with a previous owner.
Blacking out the rego has backfired, but I've acted as spokesman for accidents twice to draw the press away from those directly involved and its a very unpleasant thing. I have full sympathy for whoever has tried to keep the aircraft identity low key.
My understanding is that it was a nice very very low time privately owned Chieftan which has a history of only one other incident which was with a previous owner.
Blacking out the rego has backfired, but I've acted as spokesman for accidents twice to draw the press away from those directly involved and its a very unpleasant thing. I have full sympathy for whoever has tried to keep the aircraft identity low key.
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I'm not sure hiding the Rego in anyway will help in this day and age. ATSB published the details within hours and asking around the aerodrome by a reporter will almost certainly yield the details. And there is the danger, as noted by a previous poster, of the Streisand Effect.
The strategy of getting someone to talk to the press is likely to work far better.
This reminds me of the QF1 runway overrun at Bangkok, where Qantas released photos of the left side of the aircraft to the press, saved the media going out to take photos. They may taken photos of the right side of the aircraft, where the real damage was.
By the way I think the questions I postulated are insensitive and inflammatory, but this is how much of the media works.
The strategy of getting someone to talk to the press is likely to work far better.
This reminds me of the QF1 runway overrun at Bangkok, where Qantas released photos of the left side of the aircraft to the press, saved the media going out to take photos. They may taken photos of the right side of the aircraft, where the real damage was.
By the way I think the questions I postulated are insensitive and inflammatory, but this is how much of the media works.
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Unfortunately painting over logos or the rego can result in what's known as the Streisand effect...
Or running an oxygen rich mixture?
Or putting on excess baggage as you age?
A simple quip of "no comment" is what the media deserve for being oversubscibed to the trough that feeds them.
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My understanding is that it was a nice very very low time privately owned Chieftan which has a history of only one other incident which was with a previous owner.
) but:A: Its year of manufacture was 1978, so I doubt if it was low time. I can remember this aircraft from back in my Air BP days at YLEC over 20 years ago. It used to be based in Darwin then.
B: As previously pointed out it's a Navajo not a Chieftain.
C: It is the same aircraft that made a heavy landing at Adelaide Airport on November 2 last year, when the undercarriage of the plane collapsed upon landing, & still has the same owner.
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A: Its year of manufacture was 1978, so I doubt if it was low time.
Also cannot understand the angst that has been caused by a young lad blacking out the call sign. Yeah, maybe you are right about modern social media making this act unnessesary, but hey, what the heck, he is a young lad that thought he was helping. There was nothing sinister in the act. I think some of you people need to take a Bex and have a good lie down. No wonder GA is in the state it is in.
By the way, I would be more than happy to employ this young lad and have him work on my aeroplane
But it doesn't work.
Shooting the messengers won't change that.
Shooting the messengers won't change that.
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But it doesn't work.
Also cannot understand the angst that has been caused by a young lad blacking out the call sign.
DF.