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Poor Aviation Journalism

Old 25th Dec 2013, 20:32
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Poor Aviation Journalism

Just bought a copy of Australian Aviation, the December 2013 issue. I haven't been a read for almost a year due to falling standards. I must add, that I had faithfully purchesed every copy since it was the Pacific Defence Reporter so that's something like 30 years as a loyal reader.

So I pay my $10 thinking it cant be that bad still. However, I have nearly choked on my coffee at Doug Mcdonalds column. "Shorter is Better".

Two little jems stand out.

"Flying higher to go further bred the 747SP in 1975. Capable of 8,300nm Qantas and Pan Am operated them from the US west coast to Sydney cruising at 45,000 feet...although making 50,000 feet on occasion"

I have heared of some SP's getting that high, but only on a crew only ferry.......but with pax???? I do stand to be corrected.

"Qantas flew a 747SP non stop from London to Sydney in 1989"

Now I know my eyes may not be that good but even I can recognize a 747-400 as apart from an SP. I watched that flight land.

Is this the standard of journalism to be expected of our national flagship aviation publication. Basic facts not even correct.
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Old 25th Dec 2013, 21:04
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i stopped reading years ago. seemed to be aimed more at spotters
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Old 25th Dec 2013, 21:24
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I never heard of any SP at 50,000 feet even on ferry flights for any operator.In fact I never heard of them going above 43,000 feet.

Never heard of an SP service to London although they did fly to Frankfurt for a while.

We did fly them to Taiwan under another name.

We did fly them to West coast of USA and to Wellington.

In the end we used them anywhere that the classic operated mainly through Asia.We used them so much that we joked that despite having a fleet of 13 classics the rest must be in a shed somewhere as we only seem to operate the 2 SPs

But what would I know, I was only an FE on them?

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Old 25th Dec 2013, 22:04
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I stopped buying it after its shrill and unbalanced reporting of 'that year'.

The editor of the time even had a go at the pilots in his teary retirement editorial when he handed over the reins a few years ago.

That makes it nearly a quarter of a century since I have paid for 'F-18s and QANTAS Monthly'! Dare we hope for a balanced article for the 25th anniversary in 2014?
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Old 25th Dec 2013, 22:28
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That makes it nearly a quarter of a century since I have paid for 'F-18s and QANTAS Monthly'! Dare we hope for a balanced article for the 25th anniversary in 2014?


That's exactly what it is. Stacked full of barely disguised press releases and marketing. Written by spotters, for spotters (not that there's anything wrong with that ).

I read Flight International for industry news etc. Is there an alternate publication for Australia, or is there not enough happening here?
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Old 25th Dec 2013, 22:38
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There's plenty happening here worth writing about, but only a few journos (such as Phelan and Sandilands) have the nads to write about it.
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Old 25th Dec 2013, 22:53
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Ceiling for all 747 models with Qantas was 45100'
Gave up my subscription over ten years ago.
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Old 25th Dec 2013, 23:59
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Yup - Australian Aviation is really about promoting the big end of town. Little of interest to GA anymore, especially since they dropped out the recent registrations listing. Even their 'politics' is big end J-curve oriented.

Australian Flying is better for GA, even recognises RAAus, HGA,APF,and others these days. They do need to get another lead author and get into analyses of Oz accidents - rather than in RSA. Pilots want to read stuff pertaining to their own patch.

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Old 26th Dec 2013, 02:29
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Owen Zupp is one of the few worth reading.

I did the survey a little while ago and made some similar points to the above. In general though I don't mind it though my mother in law generally pays for my subscription each year and I'm not sure I'd buy it myself if she didn't.

As for Geoffrey Thomas.
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Old 26th Dec 2013, 02:58
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Strangely enough, Owen Zupp is shown as the Technical Editor of the magazine. Does he, or the other editors check the contributions for technical accuracy!

That article Guptar mentions is cringe-worthy.

I liked the embellished description of the Townsville to Brisbane domestic operation in the SP.... with the STOL landing in Brisbane to keep the pilots current for Wellington!
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Old 26th Dec 2013, 05:29
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with the STOL landing in Brisbane to keep the pilots current for Wellington!
This is the kind of bollox that only a supremely aviation ignorant "the full anorak" journalist could produce -- and I did enough landings into Wellington in the SP to know.

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Old 26th Dec 2013, 06:04
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I did the survey a little while ago and made some similar points to the above.
So did I Keg. Unfortunately I'm not expecting much in the line of any changes.

since they dropped out the recent registrations listing
Found that irritating as well.
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Old 26th Dec 2013, 06:48
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Owen Zupp seems ok. I like his flight test articles, and I have enjoyed bits and pieces of his writing elsewhere. Doesn't he have a job that would preclude him spending too much time contributing to the magazine?
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Old 26th Dec 2013, 09:55
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Owen Zupp is a QF FO, or at least he was when I worked for QF.
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Old 26th Dec 2013, 22:13
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But you must be wrong!

Australian Aviation‘s managing editor & publisher Gerard Frawley was announced as Aviation Journalist of the Year for 2013 at the National Aviation Press Club’s award ceremony
source: AA?s Frawley aviation journalist of the year | Australian Aviation Magazine (i.e. themselves)

No idea who comprises the "National Aviation Press Club" ... google showed up nothing except Australian Aviation and Airservices Australia.

Maybe it's a conspiracy against Ben Sandilands?
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Old 26th Dec 2013, 23:34
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Australian Flying is better for GA
Now that IS funny!

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Old 26th Dec 2013, 23:56
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Yup, Journalistic PAP and Thomas is a disgrace, note that his awards come from fellow journalists not aviators.


Therein lies the disgrace, he doesn't need facts, just reasonable English and lots of column inches.


I also stopped buying the F18/Qantas magazine 10 years ago.
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Old 27th Dec 2013, 10:43
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Old 27th Dec 2013, 18:57
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50,000 ft was and is not allowed as in the event of cabin pressure failure the pax need pressure breathing.

PS PPRuNe is as better at keeping up to date than most aviation magazines.
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Brilliant!!
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