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Old 5th May 2013, 05:27
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In an ideal world that would be great but the processing times are generally out of control of the issuing body. Rather it is governed by how long Auscheck takes to come back with the clearance. Once you submit an application to them, the only response you will receive, via the issuing body is "being processed by checking partners" meaning federal and state police through Crimtrac and ASIO.

So telling the issuing body not to do anything with your application until the last minute could well leave you with no card at all whilst they wait for Auscheck.

Most issuing bodies print out the cards and send them off on the same day that the Auscheck clearance comes through.

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Old 5th May 2013, 10:51
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I received the renewal letter and had it in the express post box 36 hours later.

Now 5 days expired.
Clearly there is a fatal flaw in the renewal system.
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Old 5th May 2013, 11:05
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Funny how they did manage to charge my credit card and send out a receipt within a few days of me sending off the renewal, 5 weeks later still no ASIC.
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Old 5th May 2013, 11:15
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You got a receipt??
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Old 5th May 2013, 11:19
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Affirmative!
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Old 5th May 2013, 12:29
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Funny how they did manage to charge my credit card and send out a receipt within a few days of me sending off the renewal, 5 weeks later still no ASIC.
See my post above.

The cost for the background check is incurred as soon as it is submitted irrespective of how long it takes or the decision.
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Old 6th May 2013, 02:21
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2 Weeks with Aviation ID Australia, Cant go wrong !
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Old 6th May 2013, 02:40
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Maybe the Postman in Merimbula only works 2 days a week....
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Old 6th May 2013, 04:06
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What's more 'fun', is that I have too many PRIMARY documents/IDs, but not that many secondary or tertiary.
I think the point is that the secondary/tertiary documents generally include something with an address (e.g. utility bill). Addresses, current and past, are part of your "identification" and background check process. So having proof of your address in Australia, as provided by utility bills or bank accounts in your name, serves a very real purpose that is not served by passports.

If you don't have a permanent address in Australia that could make you seem a bit "suspicious" - rightly or wrongly
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Old 6th May 2013, 12:11
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I received the renewal letter and had it in the express post box 36 hours later.

Now 5 days expired.
Clearly there is a fatal flaw in the renewal system.
sounds like you're right. I didn't have a problem but that's not acceptable if you've done what you can

Can you wear the expired one and just tell whoever asks that you are waiting on your new one? (that it has taken longer than usual)?
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Old 6th May 2013, 13:59
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Unfortunately not. I've had to organise an escort at every SC aerodrome since expiry. Not worth the alternative

Although.....
"I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a mans shoes?"
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Old 6th May 2013, 23:03
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Unfortunately not. I've had to organise an escort at every SC aerodrome since expiry. Not worth the alternative...
Amazing is it not. We got unknown unchecked illegals arriving by the boat load then put into our community. Meanwhile, Oz pilots get threatened fer not wearing a bit of idiotic plastic..





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Old 25th May 2013, 19:26
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Hmmm... still a bit mystified what them ASIC'c are supposed to do/stop?

Probably the comments from when they were first introduced is right - all they do is 'look' to be doing something. Forget terrorists, any half smart school kid could work out ways around not having an ASIC.

Now all we've got is more useless costly bureaucratic nonsense to attend to each year..
Would have to agree with that! But don't you feel much safer now? Costly? A small price (not!) for pilots all to pay out of their own pockets but as a side benefit, imagine how many bureaucrats and private contractors this useless endeavour is keeping in work!

Whatever, don't make too much fuss.... If they got serious about security it could be much worse. Did you see these cases in the US? I think I'll just pay up for my ASIC and shut up.

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Old 26th May 2013, 08:34
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Yer wonder just how much checking is done fer these ASIC's, they have enuf problems elsewhere...

"...Customs is beset by corruption allegations, and is perceived by senior police as a dysfunctional Canberra-centric bureaucracy top heavy with overpaid public servants. Between the AFP and state police there have been turf wars and computer mismatches.

In addition, the capitulation of the Rudd-Gillard governments to criminal people smugglers has had two critical impacts on Australia’s national security.

Firstly, it has diverted attention away from the detection of terrorists, drugs and guns. Secondly, asylum seeker arrivals have overwhelmed an already under-resourced ASIO’s ability to perform adequate security assessments..."


Poor old Abbott has got a bit of work ahead of him...


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Old 27th May 2013, 19:43
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I seem to have struck a problem that I have not read about here. One month ago my vehicle, with ASIC stored therein, was stolen, the ASIC not recovered. It is a requirement of CASA and the Aviation Transport Act that I submit a Statutory Declaration, with all the details, within seven days. This was duly forwarded.

What I cannot find is any process to apply for a replacement. CASA has the power to issue a temporary replacement, but I can't find any avenue to request same.

I can't be the first to have a lost or stolen ASIC, anyone know of the procedure to get a replacement?
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Old 28th May 2013, 02:53
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Call CASA on 131757 ask for the office that processes ASICs I believe it is the Crew Licencing and Records Centre (CLARC).
As you already have the stat dec, all you should have to do is send that off with whatever form they have for a replacement card. They will be able to tell you on the phone what the drill is.

Count yourself lucky if you walk away with change from $60.00
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Old 28th May 2013, 03:36
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I think the point is that the secondary/tertiary documents generally include something with an address (e.g. utility bill). Addresses, current and past, are part of your "identification" and background check process. So having proof of your address in Australia, as provided by utility bills or bank accounts in your name, serves a very real purpose that is not served by passports.

If you don't have a permanent address in Australia that could make you seem a bit "suspicious" - rightly or wrongly
Yeah, so I transfer my UK driving licence to Transport WA one and suddenly I'm more credible? I was told I can use photo pilot licence (there's English text about exercising privileges blah blah, but the basics are in Spanish only) Which has my Arg registered address. I have some 5 different 'residential' addresses depending on country/agency and government issued docs - most of them require LOCAL address from me. I still have to make myself homeless in Czech Rep as my aunt may have some hassle/has had extra cost, with my IDs registered there.

I do see the point, but the secondary or tertiary docs don't strictly need Australian address and I can apply for ASIC from abroad and then only have it finalised once I clear immigration/port of entry, also due to some obscure old rules. There's VEVO system on DIAC's website - they can see I have electronic visa issued. No, the old regs are old regs. What's permanent address anyway? Point in time.

Seeing the cost, I'll just apply for ASIC rather later, before flight tests.
By then, will have some Aussie address docs or Transport WA car driving licence/letters, as well as bank account.
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Old 28th May 2013, 05:02
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Before this thread gets locked away.
I received my ASIC. Took just under 7 weeks.


Apparently (varying unverified sources) the delay is due to a backlog with one of the 3 checking bodies AusCheck requests security information from.

This years 'last estimated' 25,000 asylum seekers come to mind.
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Old 28th May 2013, 06:22
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Apparently (varying unverified sources) the delay is due to a backlog with one of the 3 checking bodies AusCheck requests security information from.
Doesn't explain why some of us who applied after you got ours within a few days .. lol. I suspect it might have something to do with your name sounding similar to someone on the blacklist. lol. I have a friend whose name sounds similar to Osama 'has been' Laden and every time he applies for a foreign visa, it takes twice as long as for most other people.
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