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Old 15th Apr 2014, 22:58
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Easy Solution

-Allow International operators to operate 24/7 at Mascot with new technology quieter aircraft (A380, B787, etc...)
-STAR's terminate at the runway with unrestricted descents (no 50 mile downwinds at 6000 feet)
-New departure routes to allow unrestricted climbs
-Domestic operations could continue with 2300-0600 curfew.
-Build a second East/West runway into Port Botany, shifting the ports to Port Kembla and Newcastle

This would negate the need for a second Sydney airport indefinitely!
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Old 15th Apr 2014, 23:11
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And we have done what in the last 30 years of arguing about a second airport for Sydney?
Not quite correct.
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Old 16th Apr 2014, 05:44
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-Allow International operators to operate 24/7 at Mascot with new technology quieter aircraft (A380, B787, etc
I suspect a lot of Industry people would agree with you Howard, but I would think it a nigh on impossible task to get the surrounding voters, er sorry, residents to agree with that! It is quite obvious that the newer aircraft are much more quiet than the old kero burners but getting the message across is the hardest bit.

And it would take a Politician with huge cojones to even make the suggestion.
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Old 16th Apr 2014, 09:13
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Bankstown to have interstate RPT within 3 months

was talking to someone today about Badgerys announcement & they said there will be RPT services to Bankstown from interstate (whatever exactly that means, they wouldn't elaborate) within 3 months.


Does this mean the Toowoomba/SYD Dash 8 flights will be moved to Bankstown ?


Someone is possibly doing Mudgee/Bankstown using ex Brindabella aircraft.


Or where from Victoria ?
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Old 16th Apr 2014, 09:31
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but I would think it a nigh on impossible task to get the surrounding voters, er sorry, residents to agree with that
All it would take is a bipartisan approach, it is hard to vote out an airport friendly MP if the opposition is also airport friendly.

Optimist aren't I ...
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This will be an amusing situation over the next few years, will keep us Ppruners occupied for as long as it's taken to come thus far!
Some things that will delay/cancel this nice simple project.

Road infrastructure.
Public transport to/from Drome
FUEL STORAGE & how will it get there? Pipeline? B Doubles on the local Rds?......Lots of obstacles there.
Some endangered tree hugging frog will be threatened!
LOCAL RESIDENTS, this ought to be good!
And lastly don't forget with our pathetic political system where the tenure is 3 years (if yr lucky!) means there will be several elections had during the construction of this project & you can bet yr left one that in order to win votes both the major parties will be digging deep in their BS bag for sure!
Whoops nearly 4got the corruption in the Govt system, it's already started (O'Farrell), their all such nice law abiding citizens with only their constituents in mind...cough cough cough!

At the rate we Aussies build anything in this country the cost will double (at least) NSW is broke.

Still we do need some form of entertainment here


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Old 16th Apr 2014, 11:58
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All it would take is a bipartisan approach, it is hard to vote out an airport friendly MP if the opposition is also airport friendly.
Agreed! But given the current crop of seat warmers/Parliamentary pension hopefulls (in other words, not a statesman amongst 'em) I cannot see it happening.

Optimist aren't I ...
Yes, but people like you are needed to balance out the hopeless pessimists/cynics such as I.
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 10:23
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So its been a while since this was announced.

Does anyone have any info on how this will affect GA in Sydney?

I've had a look around and can't find any info anywhere.
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 11:08
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Here's the latest:

"IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN."

Pigs will fly RPT from the car park before Buggery Crack gets up.
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 20:55
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"Does anyone have any info on how this will affect GA in Sydney?"

Will not affect GA at all.
By the time its built there wont be any GA in Australia.
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I bet you all don't know this.
When lpc sold the land for the airport he had a cause in it that if the land was not built on before a due date the land went back to lpc at zero cost. That date was many many years ago and the land is now owned again by lpc. This means it has to be re brought before any thing can happen.

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Old 4th Jun 2014, 02:56
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"IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN."
Maybe, maybe not.

However I do know of one business in Luddenam is ceasing operation in October this year, and the reason they have given is because they need to vacate the land for Bagderys Creek Airport.

I tried to post up a link to their announcement last night but it needed approval from mods and hasn't come through yet. For those interested look up "The Train Shed" on Facebook.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 03:08
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I don't know what everyone is expecting given they announced it only the other month. Earthmovers already moving in to start digging it up?

It's a big project. There wouldn't even be any plans yet. I'd be surprised if there's any construction inside of 12 months from now.

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Old 4th Jun 2014, 11:12
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Give it to a Chinese contractor, it will be completed in 6 months.
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That may happen anyway, but it won't result in a 6 month build......
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Old 6th Jun 2014, 10:39
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Interesting comment sms777 and you are probably nearly correct. However if such a thing did occur, I would like to see constant supervision etc by building inspectors and such like, just to make sure they don`t start trying to fiddle the books by using substandard materials.

Cynical?? Who..me?
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Old 6th Jun 2014, 22:40
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Give it to a Chinese contractor, it will be completed in 6 months.
Only with an all-Chinese workforce, working to Chinese building standards, Chinese OH&S laws, and the Chinese approvals system...including the right to "detain" anyone who protests about any aspect of it
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