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Victa Bravo 16th Apr 2013 04:39

What if Badgerys Creek goes ahead?
 
What happens to Bankstown's training area, and Camden's CTA?

VB

aroa 16th Apr 2013 05:59

Wot if...?
 
That hoary old chestnut....yet again.!!!!!

Preliminary studies were done covering that area 30 years ago.
See anything on Google Earth yet ???

By the time this comes around again we will all have Anti-Gravity Belts and go where we want, when we want.
Politicians know this, thats why they wont make a decision :ok:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 16th Apr 2013 06:09

Or.....
The Minister's High Speed Rail will make aeroplanes 'superfluous' for the 'shorter' journeys...thus SY will be less busy.....

But - not in my lifetime Oi rekkon...
:}

PLovett 16th Apr 2013 06:59

In the meantime the business and financial industries that call Sydney home will start looking to Melbourne because of the chaos that will be Mascot and of trying to fly in and out of that compromised paddock unless something is done and soon about relieving the pressure.

As the business hub moves out, property prices will fall generating panic in the market as so much was borrowed on the expectation that it was secured against an ever-rising property market.

Politicians - pah! A long-term view for them is next week.

Rusty1970 16th Apr 2013 11:25

Leaving aside the "It'll never happen" comments, the most recent report is here:

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/avi...astructure.pdf

Depends on what they build. Camden goes. "severely impact" training area.

It'll likely be up to Mr Abbott after September. Hockey and Turnbull are on the record as wanting it. Abbott himself has been coy about it.

thorn bird 16th Apr 2013 13:14

"....the chaos that will be Mascot and of trying to fly in and out of that compromised paddock....."

PL what do you mean will??

Ascend Charlie 16th Apr 2013 20:09

Back in the early 90s I flew a Feral Garment Minister to the site, where, in front of gathered TV and press cameras, the sod turned the first sod with a silver spade. A sign was unveiled, everybody packed up, we flew back to Mascot, and the pollies pulled their puds for a while in joy.

Then the cobwebs and mould covered the sign, it was pulled down, the Garment sold off the land at a loss (surprise, surprise) and people built more houses over the proposed runway.

it will never happen.:(

PLovett 17th Apr 2013 02:24


PL what do you mean will??
Good point. Its a dog's breakfast now and will not get any better. :sad:

Tinstaafl 17th Apr 2013 03:11

Plenty of room for a decent airport in Sydney. Fill in Botany Bay and land on that.

LewC 17th Apr 2013 04:53

Chuck the Army off Holsworthy (some 18,000 ha.) and there's enough room for half a dozen airports.

SeldomFixit 17th Apr 2013 05:53

And enough unexploded ordnance to keep the Civil Contractors treading gingerly :\

LewC 17th Apr 2013 06:12

Holsworthy was one of the locations that was looked in the '90's.The Army resisted ferociously any intrusion on their playground.One of the arguments they threw up was that the entire area was virtually an Aboriginal Sacred Site,something that obviously hadn't concerned them for the 60 odd years that they'd been bombing the crap out of the Sacred Sites with exploding ordnance and ordnance which didn't manage to go bang. German cities,after WW11,were littered with unexploded ordnance most of which was a lot larger than anything ever seen at Holsworthy yet somehow those crafty Germans managed to clear the cities and carry on building.

4Greens 17th Apr 2013 08:53

No need for any more speculation. Badgery's Creek will be built at exactly the same time as London's second airport.

Oktas8 17th Apr 2013 10:46


London's second airport
Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stansted, umm, that one that was closed thirty years ago, umm, and that other one that was closed, you know the one... Oh and apparently Oxford is now "London Oxford", whaddaya know.



(Just yanking your chain a little 4greens, don't worry about it!)

Scion 17th Apr 2013 20:12

When McQuarie Bank initially took over Mascot wasn't there in the contract some stupid amount of "compensation" to be paid to them if another civil airport was to be built in the Sydney basin?

Is this not a reason why we will not see another airport for this next generation as the costs are too much.

SgtBundy 18th Apr 2013 03:16

From what I read the clause was that Macquarie had first refusal rights to develop any second airport.

Wally Mk2 18th Apr 2013 08:01

$$$$$$$$$ it's ALL about $$$$$ oh & infrastructure, the country can't afford either, we are broke with a totally inept Govt whom simply don't have the foresight!
There's oodles of room that's never the issue but Pollies, Greenies, local residents & the fact that no one has the balls to make it happen means...... welcome to Australia (outside of curfew hrs that is!)!




Wmk2

mcgrath50 18th Apr 2013 11:00

We're hardly broke. Check out Europe to see countries that are broke.

truthinbeer 18th Apr 2013 12:27

I think Macquarie have rights to any new airport within 70km(?) of Kingsford-Smth.

Checkboard 18th Apr 2013 17:00


We're hardly broke. Check out Europe to see countries that are broke.
Press Release - The Truth on Debt vs what the Telegraph writes [27/03/2013]

http://ministers.treasury.gov.au/min...13066901_n.png

... mind you, this is no excuse to chuck it all away by spending up big on borrowed cash!


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