Hi-vis vests to be required at YPJT from 21 January.
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I notice that the Oz Defence Force folks all wear hi-vis vests over their camo gear.
).We also have to sign off risk assessments before doing a basic fitness assessment or unit PT
Workplace Safety is crucial but the mindless over-reaction is starting to grate. It has reached a stage where it affects capability adversely without preventing injuries.
LTDT, sounds like it has gotten worse in the military since my time. All we had to do was quote a few relevant chapters of MOHS in the range instruction, grab the wpns, ammo, first aid kit and fire fighting gear and off we went. Those were the good old days. 
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Is it inappropriate to say that vests are a good thing at Moorabbin when taxiing late in the day or at night because otherwise I wouldn't be able to see 90% of the Oxford students?
This thread has got me thinking about how at least once or twice a month catering trucks/tankers/baggage carts-whatever will cut in front of our taxiing jet, look at the driver, mostly they simply didn't see you.
If they fail to notice a moving 40 ton jet I'm just not sure how conspicuous a 5 foot dayglo dude is supposed to be.
If they fail to notice a moving 40 ton jet I'm just not sure how conspicuous a 5 foot dayglo dude is supposed to be.
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I can't possibly wear one of those high-vis vests.....mere mortals will be unable to admire all my bling!
Quelle horreur!!!!!YPJT, that's a really interesting point you bring up, and risks a bit of thread drift ... MLW 2-9-2 (soon to be replaced by a new pam) contains all the needful for running a gazetted live fire practice. Indeed, CATC state unequivocally that range instructions and risk analyses are NOT NEEDED for gazetted live fire practices. That is what 2-9-2 is for .... but no CO accepts that and like lemmings we slave away cut'n ' n ' past'n old instructions and redoing old RAS's to produce an instruction for the CO to sign IOT run a simple F88 LF6.
We subbies have more important things to do with our time, like mornos, pay week raffles, agitating / lobbying to get on the next rotation of Op WHATEVER ....
This has reminded me that I need to get some of my own high vis vests for work. I think I will have mine with 4 stripes embroidered on each shoulder in a contrasting colour and the word Captain on the front and back. That way, the mere plebs will KNOW I am the boss!
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Insider, you can probably buy one of those off the shelf from England. The Poms would insist on such attire. Even their raincoats and pullovers are modified to display their shoulder bars and at uniform issue they get, or purchase, extra sets of bars just to be sure that every dress code is catered for.
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Over the top OH&S is being driven by private companies specialising in training and assessment in this area plus legislation being pushed by such companies into law. It's also driven by lazy companies merely hiring said risk assessment companies and implementing their over zealous recommendations.
It's a huge money spinner and most of it is implemented by people who've never been out of an air conditioned room for their whole working lives.
As an example, I've been driving forklifts for 20 years but only last year did I finally decide to get a fork ticket. Instead of being able to go straight to the written exam and practical test, I had to hand over $400 and waste a full day at an approved training facility.
I've been working in trades for over 20 years and haven't seen a workplace incident that would've been eliminated by a hi viz vest.
It's a huge money spinner and most of it is implemented by people who've never been out of an air conditioned room for their whole working lives.
As an example, I've been driving forklifts for 20 years but only last year did I finally decide to get a fork ticket. Instead of being able to go straight to the written exam and practical test, I had to hand over $400 and waste a full day at an approved training facility.
I've been working in trades for over 20 years and haven't seen a workplace incident that would've been eliminated by a hi viz vest.
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Seagull V I notice that the Oz Defence Force folks all wear hi-vis vests over their camo gear.
I love it when requirements from risk assessment companies conflict with the AFM or the Regs.
With to many Hi-vis vests around the workplace, in Maccas, Coles and Wollies, they will just become visual "background noise." The OH&S crowd will have to dream up something else.
Maybe flashing LEDs, front and back.
With to many Hi-vis vests around the workplace, in Maccas, Coles and Wollies, they will just become visual "background noise." The OH&S crowd will have to dream up something else.
Maybe flashing LEDs, front and back.
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Before I joined the ranks of high payed pilot dudes I did a bit of welding here and there and trust me a jumped up pyscho saftey man making me wear my synthetic fluro when overhead welding was comical we were going through 2 a day, they were smouldering and melting all day but we were SAFE.
Saftey is about training the individual and getting his/her mindset right and getting them to operate safley similar to defensive driving courses, but thats my humble opinion.
Saftey is about training the individual and getting his/her mindset right and getting them to operate safley similar to defensive driving courses, but thats my humble opinion.
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I knew a guy who had his surname emblazoned across the back in 5cm high black letters 
.. he was sacked for being an idiot, which was unconnected to the hi-vis, but it was a definite indicator!
.. he was sacked for being an idiot, which was unconnected to the hi-vis, but it was a definite indicator!
