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Old 14th Nov 2012, 12:35
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USA OUTLAWS EU Carbon Tax...

None of that 'nasty' ole Carbon Tax' for us ....say USA....

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HOUSE PASSES BILL OUTLAWING EU CARBON TAX
The European Union has delayed implementation of its controversial airline carbon tax to 2014, citing progress on a global carbon emission effort by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). However, the U.S. House of Representatives increased the pressure against the EU's plan with passage of a bill that will make it illegal for U.S. airlines to pay the tax. The bill passed after only a few minutes of debate Tuesday. "In my view, the EU's proposed emissions trading scheme is inconsistent with international aviation law and practice," said Rep. Nick Rahall. D-W.Va. "It goes against international law and agreements. It brings the hand of European regulators into our own airspace." More...

Some sense at last...
(IMHO...)
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After all the hubris in Australia, the implementation of a Carbon Tax here was a big non-event. I think it was inevitable and would have been done eventually by either of the major political parties.

Global Warming is already having a detrimental effect on weather patterns and sea levels. A Carbon Tax is an essential step to help mitigate Global Warming.
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A Carbon Tax is an essential step to help mitigate Global Warming.
Well, you can't help stupid.

But, you can tax it.
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I got stuck for four days in Broome earlier this year after importing an aircraft from Indonesia while they worked out
A) Did I have airconditioning ($3000 tax if I did)
B) Did I have an ozone depleting substance in the fire extinguisher (fcukin A!, bromochlorodiflouromethane, Halon 1211, BCF, as fitted to almost every other aircraft in Oz and it sure as hell eats ozone!)
C) Who was actually going to come out and look at this stuff!

But it's all good! Bend over and grab your ankles with a smile because WE'RE SAVING THE WORLD WITH THIS BULLSIHT!!!
narf....
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Thumbs down God help us

Global Warming is already having a detrimental effect on weather patterns and sea levels. A Carbon Tax is an essential step to help mitigate Global Warming.
FFS
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Hey, Pete, maybe your next big support issue could be doing something about those nasty contrails?
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ATO internship pre-entry exam q:

A Carbon Tax is an essential step to:

A) ...help mitigate global warming.
B) ...be seen to be Doing Something.
C) ...increase revenue in this difficult time.
D) ...mimic our important allies overseas.

Answer matrix:
A) Assigned to Public Relations office.
B) Assigned to Political Liaison office.
C) Assigned to Chief Commissioner's office. Entry to the management fast-track programme.
D) Assigned to Policy Creation unit.
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...and the final answer: Assigned to the Department of Stupidity
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Global Warming is already having a detrimental effect on weather patterns and sea levels. A Carbon Tax is an essential step to help mitigate Global Warming.


Hey Pete, your belief in global warming is admirable...

Have you thought about a hobby change that burns less dinosaurs - Forestry or Bird Watching Perhaps?.

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Peter, Peter, Peter, what were you thinking? This is the RUMOUR network.

1 out of every 100 scientists is rumoured to say global warming is not human-caused and is not changing the climate, so that's the one we go with.

Is that so hard to understand?
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"I think it was inevitable and would have been done eventually by either of the major political parties."

NOT by the ONE 'Oi' would vote for Pete.......

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NOT by the ONE 'Oi' would vote for
I didn't realise Pauline was running for parliament again!!

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It's my humble opinion that peterc005 is a paid troll.

Been done to death here and elsewhere and feeding that identity only encourages it.

"Say agian please,,,, do you want sauce with those chips".

Bad spelling inteentional for the spelling police!
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via Frank Arouet;
It's my humble opinion that peterc005 is a paid troll.
Frank Arouet, why so worried about peterc005 ? Not a global warming hysteric are yer..

Its fairly obvious that climate hysteric peterc005 has a very limited understanding of the 'global warming' issue so methinks best leave em to-it... good value..



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Global Warming is already having a detrimental effect on weather patterns and sea levels. A Carbon Tax is an essential step to help mitigate Global Warming.
Peter, you are training to be a pilot. Obviously, you have studied a small amount of meteorology. What drives weather, what stores the heat and what mixes it all up?

The laws of Thermodynamics are inviolate!

What amount of tax will change the temperature of the Earth by even a tenth of a degree?

The green movement is annoyed that Peak Oil is a myth. If the stuff doesn't run out then we are just going to have to make it too expensive to use!
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The least pollutiing business is the most profitable business.

If one aircraft is spewing more CO2 than another equivalent aircraft then the first aircraft is using more fuel and generating less profit.

What the tax does is efficiently and accurately send a message to European airlines and European manufacturers to invest in building and flying more fuel efficient aircraft.

The net result of failure of the Americans to follow suit will be exactly the same as happened to their auto industry - the American gas guzzler got knocked off the road by the more economical VW and Japanese imports.

Dont argue about economics if you don't know what you are talking about.
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And Coriolis effect should keep those nasty northern hemisphere gasses away from us in the south. Can't wait for the sea level rise. I'll have waterfront and the joint will skyrocket in value. I'll probably have to sell the boat trailer.

Strewth! peter....maaaate. The Catholics are in strife. Use your time for better projects. Take up a collection they need the money.

BTW: did you ever read "Power without Glory".
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Sunfish I mostly enjoy your logic, in this case I must challenge you, the R R engines ( european build ) are the most inefficient of the large fan high thrust engines, followed by CFM asI understand the numbers and certianly aced by G E and P & W.

Don't call the game too soon, the old days of U.S. engines leaving black trails is long gone.

G E on a 777 is about the most efficient heavy beast in the sky.

Good on the U.S. for calling the Euro bluff.
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via Sunfish;
...The least polluting business is the most profitable business...
errr...No. China is the most "polluting" business on the planet - and the most profitable..


via Sunfish;
If one aircraft is spewing more CO2 than...
Try not to breath to heavy Sunfish, we dont want all that extra 'pollution'..


via Sunfish;
...The net result of failure of the Americans to follow suit will be exactly the same as happened to their auto industry - the American gas guzzler got knocked off the road by the more economical VW and Japanese imports...
errr, Sunfish... are yer saying an added tax will make the yanks more competitive.. .....China, India....Nyet..



via Sunfish;
Dont argue about economics if you don't know what you are talking about.
...or CO2 'pollution'..






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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
........has a very limited understanding of the 'global warming' issue
Pretty impressive coming from someone who quotes WUWT as an authoritative source of scientific understanding.

But then as we've extensively covered already, you've been denying the realities of basic physics for quite some time now, right Binghi?
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