VFR Bimbling Chart Requirements
I agree aeromatt, apart from the new rules about EFBs for AOC holders, everything in that draft CAAP reflects the current rules.
(backup battery pack if no power source works well plus everything on an iPhone too). I also like paper charts, easy to carry tucked behind my shoulder harness.
(backup battery pack if no power source works well plus everything on an iPhone too). I also like paper charts, easy to carry tucked behind my shoulder harness.
I don't have an instrument rating so I can't speak for the practicalities (or not) of having IFR charts in electronic form but the VFR maps and ERSA are updated on Ozrunways in line with the paper versions.
Three years in between reissues of WAC charts.
Again, how can you amend an electronic version.
When was the last time you actually read notams?
How often do they show chart amendments?
I just ran a location brief on YBBB and the fifth and sixth notams on the list were.......
chart amendments.
surprise, surprise, surprise....
Again, how can you amend an electronic version?
Good idea on carrying the paper backups for the intended destinations (incl. alts). That is the legal requirement. I would be carrying eight full volumes of Jepps if I had everything on paper for a ferry from Europe to Australia, but it cuts to two with electronic subscriptions. I print a nav plan and plates for each day's flying, but still use the ipad for primary reference. I am legal that way.
Remember Jepps amend every two weeks, not three months.
Oz runways (not knocking it, I use it too) carrys the big "NOT FOR USE IN AIR NAVIGATION" disclaimer on startup. I still carry the required VTC/VNCs etc... In paper. (and amended)
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Amendments notwithstanding, you seem to have missed my point,
Point me to the law which makes it a legal requirement to carry documents and maps printed on paper..
Good idea on carrying the paper backups for the intended destinations (incl. alts). That is the legal requirement.
******** Aeromatt, you prove that you are NOT required to have paper.
This is the effing problem! All is in CASA'sinterpretation, NOT YOURS, good lick with spending $100,000 plus to clarify this point for us.
This is the effing problem! All is in CASA'sinterpretation, NOT YOURS, good lick with spending $100,000 plus to clarify this point for us.
Its not CASAs interpretation that counts, despite what they will have you believe.
All that matters is the court's interpretation.
And I agree with aeromatt: carrying the charts is required. The law makes no further claim that it must be on paper. Precisely how you carry the charts is up to you - all that is required is that you do.
All that matters is the court's interpretation.
And I agree with aeromatt: carrying the charts is required. The law makes no further claim that it must be on paper. Precisely how you carry the charts is up to you - all that is required is that you do.
Why do Jeppesen supply paper ERCs and TACs and require the Jeppview program to print the plates with electronic subscriptions?
Still haven't been told how you amend three month old electronic maps.
If you don't need to carry paper, aeromatt, why do you? Surely a couple of pages from the photocopier drawer would be cheaper to write things on as you're flying?
Still haven't been told how you amend three month old electronic maps.
If you don't need to carry paper, aeromatt, why do you? Surely a couple of pages from the photocopier drawer would be cheaper to write things on as you're flying?
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Its not CASAs interpretation that counts, despite what they will have you believe.
All that matters is the court's interpretation.
All that matters is the court's interpretation.
Still haven't been told how you amend three month old electronic maps.
If you don't need to carry paper, aeromatt, why do you?
The entire ERSA and AIP and all the other maps I have in electronic form, to carry all of those in paper wouldn't be practical and would only add weight to my nav bag.
CASA make the rules so why cannot we just ask them on their website and paste the replies here?
If it is so difficult to understand they should be able to explain simply in words we can all understand, for safety sake!
Is this not their remit?
If it is so difficult to understand they should be able to explain simply in words we can all understand, for safety sake!
Is this not their remit?
