FAST test, maybe we all have a problem?
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4. Has a relative or friend, a doctor or other health worker been concerned about your drinking or suggested you cut down?
__ No ***__ Yes, but not in the last year. ***__ Yes in the last year.
__ No ***__ Yes, but not in the last year. ***__ Yes in the last year.
So you think you can lie your arses off,
Well we can lie our arses off too;
Bugger off, and don't be crying,
We're better at this st than you...
If they ask stupid questions they must expect stupid answers.
IMO the only question that counts: On every occasion when you showed up for duty were you unencumbered by the effects of alcohol or other narcotics?
If the answer is yes then nothing further need be asked. Do they do a Myer Briggs horoscope as well? Ask if you're getting five serves of vegies a day? Eating crew meals would make that difficult...
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oh crap!!
holy f**k! does this mean i have to tell my Doc that I had 6 cans of JD while enjoying the origin tonight in my upcoming medical?>!! lol
bloody hell!! hazardous or what! hahaha...
Go the Blues btw... u can do it guys!!
bloody hell!! hazardous or what! hahaha...
Go the Blues btw... u can do it guys!!
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yes, im taking this information in also for my medical too! thanks guys for the heads-up.. but seriously, so long as u aren't affected by alcohol for duty as a pilot.. then what does it matter to those stooges?
Myself, i wouldn't drink 24+hrs prior to a flight anyway.. but when i do want a drink, sure, i can go hard! lol.. too many squares in canberra trying to rule the world.. or should i say their own world..
cheers guys!
and go blues!
Myself, i wouldn't drink 24+hrs prior to a flight anyway.. but when i do want a drink, sure, i can go hard! lol.. too many squares in canberra trying to rule the world.. or should i say their own world..
cheers guys!
and go blues!
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holy f**k! does this mean i have to tell my Doc that I had 6 cans of JD while enjoying the origin tonight in my upcoming medical?>!! lol
Carn the blues
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haha love it!!
yeh i like to start on beer... but my fav gotta be the JD!
but then again, im not an employed pilot yet... so i can still afford it aye..lol..
not long now though..
yeh i like to start on beer... but my fav gotta be the JD!
but then again, im not an employed pilot yet... so i can still afford it aye..lol..
not long now though..
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well when you get to celebrating your employment, you and others might find this site useful...
Boozle - Finding Australia's Cheapest Alcohol
Boozle - Finding Australia's Cheapest Alcohol
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haha thats awesome! thnks for the link@jas24zzk!
Hey Dogman, hoping that these extra tests required for your medical dont cost too much $$... let us know how you go.. cheers.
Hey Dogman, hoping that these extra tests required for your medical dont cost too much $$... let us know how you go.. cheers.
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Dogman, welcome to the world of the government run organisation. The cynic in me would say that this questionaire has less to do with your level of alcohol consumption and more to do with the CASA being able to compile an "official report" for the benefit of the Australian public demonstrating that it is making a concerted effort to identify and eliminate alcohol abuse within the aviation industry, but what would I know? Your honesty would be highly regarded by the appropriate people in the CASA, because a zero in the box of potential alcoholics on the official report would not look believable on the minister's desk. The skeptic in me would hazard a guess that most of the people in the CASA would roll their eyes at the content of this questionaire, knowing full well that no booze respecting, diehard alcoholic pilot would ever answer the questions truthfully unless already highly inebriated at the time of the survey, but once again, what would I know? It appears to me, that there are so many grey areas open to interpretation in the way the questionaire is worded that a lawyer could drive a fully laden Carlton Draught truck through it, but what would I know? It seems to be an exercise in trying to make an objective assessment of subjective opinions.
Coming in 2013: a new questionaire asking for honest answers to..."Have you ever flown below 500ft AGL over unpopulated areas intentionally or otherwise except for the purpose of taking off and landing?" Remedial action will be required for any respondents answering yes. This will be followed in 2014 by a survey asking for responses to..."Have you at any time in the past, either intentionally or otherwise, while flying VFR, flown in less than VMC?" BTW, my response is "absolutely not!" to both previous questions. I hope this doesn't appear on a background report for a job application for you at some stage in the future. You might want to pose some questions to the CASA to find out.
Coming in 2013: a new questionaire asking for honest answers to..."Have you ever flown below 500ft AGL over unpopulated areas intentionally or otherwise except for the purpose of taking off and landing?" Remedial action will be required for any respondents answering yes. This will be followed in 2014 by a survey asking for responses to..."Have you at any time in the past, either intentionally or otherwise, while flying VFR, flown in less than VMC?" BTW, my response is "absolutely not!" to both previous questions. I hope this doesn't appear on a background report for a job application for you at some stage in the future. You might want to pose some questions to the CASA to find out.
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Many and varied replies thank you......
I phoned CASA and expressed my dismay that score of 3/16 is considered "potentially hazardous"..... I only got silence or no answer at all. But what would I know?
Doctors appointment and blood tests booked. My only concern is that my medical expires in less than 30 days..... God knows how long the results of these tests will take to come back, or get processed by CASA?
After nearly 20 years of flying I would say my drinking levels are far more reasoned and responsible now that when I first started. Certainly in my current role these days I would never take the chance. Anyway what would I know?
DM
I phoned CASA and expressed my dismay that score of 3/16 is considered "potentially hazardous"..... I only got silence or no answer at all. But what would I know?
Doctors appointment and blood tests booked. My only concern is that my medical expires in less than 30 days..... God knows how long the results of these tests will take to come back, or get processed by CASA?
After nearly 20 years of flying I would say my drinking levels are far more reasoned and responsible now that when I first started. Certainly in my current role these days I would never take the chance. Anyway what would I know?
DM
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It is not just the Sub Continent Doctors that are the problem, if you have a hiccup guess what ????? the first words from the CLARC group will be threatening.
Not for them the normal approach to legal matters, ask for the facts, weigh and decide the corrective course of action, if all fails go legal.
No the heavy hand of the threat to involve the DPP comes first, no wonder we don't trust them.
Not for them the normal approach to legal matters, ask for the facts, weigh and decide the corrective course of action, if all fails go legal.
No the heavy hand of the threat to involve the DPP comes first, no wonder we don't trust them.
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Candidates need to be in possession of certain items like towels, slippers, mosquito net, white handkerchiefs, dressing gown, hangers, electric iron etc, on arrival at AFA.
Tin mug, boots, hootchie...jocks optional, though the link below does mention irons (and iron cleaner, maybe useful after Cervelle Grillée de Fer experiments?). Dressing gown and white hankies? Don't even think about it.
For females: the equivalent of male attire mentioned above. Do not bring any revealing or showy clothes as you will not be permitted to wear them. Ensure that you bring enclosed shoes and no high heels (you won't need them).
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