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Old 12th Dec 2011, 14:30
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Where to do MECIR in Australia

Hi all ppruners,
I am new here. I have just got my CPL from AFTC and I intend to do my MECIR in Australia. Does anyone know any good schools with the shortest amount of time to do it and decent price? Not the sausage factory.
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Cheap and quick (read as nasty), eh?

Sound exactly like a sausage factory request. Might as well go for a Phillipines issued rating.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

You should be asking which schools have the better reputations and there are plenty of threads on this topic already.
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As a slight thread drift, how much do future employers care who you've done the rating with? Or do they just care what boxes you've ticked?

Also, given say 3 similarly priced options, two of which are in the likes of a Seminole or Duchess with the third being in a Baron or 310, which would be most advantageous?

Personally I understand the need to do the rating with someone who will make you a competent and confident instrument rated pilot, but maybe this poster simply wants to "tick boxes"?
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Just about every AFAP job for twin drivers have the line 'rating in XXX an advantage'.
I've never seem a seminole described in that.

Depends on where you are going to be looking for a job, do some research and find out what twins are in the area and get the endorsement in that.

It seems every one has either a PA31, C40x or a C310
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Just keep in mind that between some schools there can be a 6k+ difference between doing it in a Seminole vs a Baron or 310, in whch case you could do the initial in a Seminole, then get endorsed + a few hours in the 310 etc and still come out on top!
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What about Johnston aviation and bob Harris?
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MECIR

Tony Smith at Moorabin is good. All the aids are close as well, with ILS at EN, VOR at Mangalore or Cowes.

Some are tricky, which gives the practice you really need. Routinely IFR to PLI and into EN ILS.

The more real IFR conditions you do, the better.
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Tony Smith has a very good reputation, but I heard it is hard to get his time.

Peter Bini Advanced Flight Training at Moorabbin seems to specialise in IFR training and has a very good reputation. PBAFT is small and possibly cheaper too.
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Redcliffe Aero Club can be hard to get a spot as there's usually a waiting list, but they're worth a look.
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This thread has been done sooooooooooooooo many times, pretty much all MECIR will cost you a bucket, but its really what aircraft are you going to waste the cash on my advise dont do it in a seminole or duchess. Spend the money and do it in a c310 or barron they are the best aircraft that will get you a job and you wont have to spend extra on i.c.u.s and garbage like that...
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Suggest you first practice on a good synthetic trainer until you could meet the CIR standard in cross-country procedures and all navaids. In fact, before flying do at least 10-15 hours in the synthetic trainer with a competent fully qualified IFR instructor. Then choose a suitably instrumented single engine IFR aircraft. When you have reached a competent level of IFR cross-country flights on the single - only then switch to a twin for the last few hours. No point at all in throwing away money doing the lot on a twin although some flying schools will naturally encourage you to use the twin from the start. Well, they would - wouldn't they. After all they are in the business primarily to make money.
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The age old saying... you get what you pay for!!!
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Most of all, find an instructor who is both competant and that you click with.
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If you want 'real' conditions, i'd suggest a visit to Bob Harris in Innisfail FNQ...starting to get pretty real up here now!
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wardair in bathurst. costs a bit but she knows her stuff!
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Peter Bini Advanced Flight Training at Moorabbin seems to specialise in IFR training and has a very good reputation.
Yes indeed, Steve has just been awarded the Master Instructor award for his work in furthering the profession. I've even met guys who use his IFR book, even if they didn't train with him.
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Speaking of IFR books, I had a quick flip through the one written by Chris Markham a few years ago and it's very good. BTW, anyone know whether Chris is still instructing? He was an instructor at MB many years ago.
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As a slight thread drift, how much do future employers care who you've done the rating with?
A lot do. For example, those who get their instrument ratings through Ad Astral Aviation in Perth are quite well regarded.
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Before this thread gets closed, I'll give another vote for Peter Binis, Steve did my IRT there 25 years ago!
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How about in a Shrike at Tasair in Hobart? Two ILS 79 nm apart. VORs and NDBs etc only stones throws from one another. Good IFR conditions. GAM has Shrikes. That may be something to consider.
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