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Old 8th Oct 2011, 05:38
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MERGED: Skydive 206 down at Tooradin

All pax out ok with some broken bones. Our thought are with the pilot who has been trapped in the aircraft for over 2 hours and is yet to be freed.

EF-ATO.
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Was it EUW??
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Yep.



There is talk that it was landing and they didn't perform the drop. Time will tell.
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Not good.

Keep us posted if u get more news please.

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A PILOT and five skydivers have been rescued following a light plane crash in southeastern Victoria.

The pilot, a man in his 50s, was trapped for almost two hours after the plane went down about 2.20pm (AEDT) after taking off from the nearby Tooradin Airfield, an Ambulance Victoria spokesman said.
Emergency crews had to wade in water sometimes up to waist-deep to reach the plane, which was semi-submerged in a creek.
The pilot was treated in the cabin before crews extricated him and he was flown to the Royal Melbourne Hospital with leg fractures.
A male passenger in his 20s was also flown to The Alfred Hospital for pelvic injuries.
The other passengers were taken by police helicopter to the airfield where they were treated for mild hypothermia and skin irritation caused by aviation fuel, the spokesman said.

Two were later taken to Dandenong Hospital and another two were taken to The Alfred Hospital suffering mild hypothermia, shock and skin irritation caused by aviation fuel.

A paramedic was also treated for mild hypothermia.
The Country Fire Authority has set up a decontamination unit at the airfield to treat emergency crews for the effects of aviation fuel.


Read more: Six rescued in light plane crash | News.com.au
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Sorry should have said earlier, it's in the news now, pilot possibly two fractured legs. Surely the aircraft will retire after this one, those machines have nine lives!
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Meat Bomber Down near Tooradin, Vic

Just saw this on the news.

Glad there was no fatalities. Wishing all a speedy recovery.

Six rescued from Vic light plane crash
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Clearly the case of a skydive aircraft being mistreated by pilots to the point of failure.
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How so clearly ?

Or did I just bite on a wind up ?
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This seems to be the best article so far:

Six cheat death in Tooradin plane crash | Herald Sun

Seems the plane was returning to land because there were too many clouds to land.

The C206 requires the pilot to select Left OR Right tank. The report mentions Avgas being spilt. Wonder if he had the correct tank selected?
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There is a bit of an issue with C206's that not many people who fly them seem to remember.

If you have less than 1/4 in a tank, any sustained turn for longer than 1min can lead to fuel starvation. A nice slow decent from the drop height circling over the field, issue wouldn't present itself until feeding in power again.

There have been a few accidents where after the aircraft has been retrieved and engine bench tested, it has been found to be running with no issues. The pilots have then sworn until they are blue in the face that they had fuel in both tanks.
Also been a few cases where the boys have run a tank dry as well

Just a theory anyway....
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That makes a lot of sense. I understand parachute jump planes carry minimal fuel to carry other load and maybe the margins were pushed too far this time.

Would be interesting to see pictures of the propeller and whether it was making power on impact.
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The sustained turn and fuel starvation sounds very plausible. Ive not done a lot in C206 but the C182 will suffer the same too if fuel is very low, as it can be flying meatbombs. One other point that came to my mind is just how different a C206 is on approach full of meatbombs compared to the normally empty and very light condtion the pilot normally finds on approach. ??
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Low fuel level............ball not in the middle.......

Cough splutter

Quite possible....search ATSB for similar events, just like this one

Investigation: 200402049 - Cessna Aircraft Company U206A, VH-OWA
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They are not meat-bombs, they are Sky-Divers or Parachutists. Meatbombers is somewhat disrespectful.
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Meatbombers is somewhat disrespectful
Agreed. Many are of the opinion that the most dangerous part of the sport is the ride in the elevator. With the record to hand, both here and overseas, you have to admit there might be more than a grain of truth in the belief.
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They are not meat-bombs, they are Sky-Divers or Parachutists. Meatbombers is somewhat disrespectful.
Absolutely. As a pilot I have always found meatbombs and Parrot-shooters to be the paragon of courtesy and respect and they deserve exactly the same treatment in return.
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After a having flown few 100 loads of skydivers I generally refer to them as meat bombs only when I'm being nice.
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Surely fuel pickup would only be an issue if the ball isn't in the middle....?
Hey you are picking this up really quick

Of course my black ball is actually white....and its often in the middle.........as it swings from left to right

Actually being serious for a moment, when faced with such a low tank level it would be wise to skid the aircraft slightly to keep all the fuel where you want it I would think. Having not had critically low fuel on arrival it has not been something I had to do.
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You guys crack me up!! As soon as one person says fuel, everyone reckons that's the problem. How would it be low fuel if they climbed up but not allthe way due cloud, so they wouldn't of burn all intended fuel therefore would have excess remaining.

Could it be that the pilot had not been experienced with a heavy load on landing where this time the skydivers didnt jump as usually the pilot has a light load.
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We are not here to write the report. That is for the ATSB!

We are just chewing the fat over what might or might not have been.....or once may have been......This is PPRUNE
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