Reserve vs Stand-by
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Reserve vs Stand-by
Quick question for the more legal minded of us (I'll be directing it to others as well outside of PPrune), Had a search on PPrune and couldn't find anything relavent to Australia.
This is in regards to Air Pilots Award 2010:
11.3
(e) On each occasion a casual pilot is required to attend work the pilot is entitled to minimum payment as follows:
(i) for a period of duty (including rostered stand-by) of four hours or less, a minimum payment of two hours; and
(ii) for a period of duty (including rostered stand-by) exceeding four hours, a minimum of four hours.
I am looking through the Air Pilots Award and am struggling to define the differences between "Stand-by" and "Reserve". My take is that "Stand-by" is time at work but not actually working and "Reserve" can be time spent at home, but i'm not really great when it comes to this type of Legal Jargon so please excuse my ignorance, hopefully someone can give me the definition and possibly a link to some sort of supporting documentation.
As I said i'll be referring this question to others as well (Union, Solicitor etc..) But just trying to cover all the possible bases. Thanks in advance.
This is in regards to Air Pilots Award 2010:
11.3
(e) On each occasion a casual pilot is required to attend work the pilot is entitled to minimum payment as follows:
(i) for a period of duty (including rostered stand-by) of four hours or less, a minimum payment of two hours; and
(ii) for a period of duty (including rostered stand-by) exceeding four hours, a minimum of four hours.
I am looking through the Air Pilots Award and am struggling to define the differences between "Stand-by" and "Reserve". My take is that "Stand-by" is time at work but not actually working and "Reserve" can be time spent at home, but i'm not really great when it comes to this type of Legal Jargon so please excuse my ignorance, hopefully someone can give me the definition and possibly a link to some sort of supporting documentation.
As I said i'll be referring this question to others as well (Union, Solicitor etc..) But just trying to cover all the possible bases. Thanks in advance.
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Am I right in presuming that you are currently casually employed?
If you are casually employed the semantic difference between "Rostered Stand-by" and "Reserve" is not relevant to you. This is because casual pilots by the very nature of the employment relationship are on reserve waiting to be called to work as and when they are needed by the employer.
The Air Pilots Award 2010 does not allow for payments to casual pilots who are not at work and just waiting to be called in. If the employer calls you in on the chance you might fly or do other duties then the relevant clauses of the Award will apply.
PM me if you need further clarification.
Have a good one!
If you are casually employed the semantic difference between "Rostered Stand-by" and "Reserve" is not relevant to you. This is because casual pilots by the very nature of the employment relationship are on reserve waiting to be called to work as and when they are needed by the employer.
The Air Pilots Award 2010 does not allow for payments to casual pilots who are not at work and just waiting to be called in. If the employer calls you in on the chance you might fly or do other duties then the relevant clauses of the Award will apply.
PM me if you need further clarification.
Have a good one!
Reserve generally means you are at home (or shopping, the beach etc) but able to get to work within a prescribed minimum time. Virgin for example requires you to be within phone contact the whole time, and able to report at the airport within two hours from the phone call.
Standby, on the other hand, generally means you are at the airport drinking coffee in the crew room, being at work but not actually working. You can be called to active duty with zero notice and will be expected to start work before your (unfinished) coffee gets cold.
Standby, on the other hand, generally means you are at the airport drinking coffee in the crew room, being at work but not actually working. You can be called to active duty with zero notice and will be expected to start work before your (unfinished) coffee gets cold.
Last edited by Lasiorhinus; 8th Sep 2011 at 06:27. Reason: coz I got it backwards.
. Let me have a coffee and I'll re-read it.Edit: OK, you're right - the Award does have them around that way. I'll edit my original post. My current employer does use the terms the other way around, so I'm going to blame that, and too much blood in my caffeine system.
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Thanks everyone, thats the idea that I had on their meanings as well. Won't go into any more details lest someone decides to start putting dots together but that has helped. Thanks again!!
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Welcoming correction if I got this wrong....
Standby as described above IS duty.
Reserve is not
Therefore one can be called off Reserve to perform a Standby at the airport.
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Standby as described above IS duty.
Reserve is not
Therefore one can be called off Reserve to perform a Standby at the airport.
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