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Old 5th Sep 2011, 07:44
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Landing fee's around Australia?

In relation to another thread, where are some of the "over the top" places?

eg. Lizard Island, near Cooktown (YLZI) $190 to chirp the wheels. (not much of a strip either!) You have to pay when you land and they are waiting with their hand out when the prop stops spinning!
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chirp$...!

Lizard Island is a National Park... but the Resort area and the airstrip is leased.
And the strip was built at their cost presumably so they can charge what they like.

I know, I know ... it was just a landing, not a purchase agreement deposit!

The idea of the huge ldg fee is....stay away if yr not booked into the resort.

Camping permits used to be/still are ? available from the Park authority... best to go there by boat or seaplane.

Top spot tho.! As long as its not blowing a 35kt Sth Easterly.
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Check out Nagambie...over the top unless you get to share the landing fee.
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The idea of the huge ldg fee is....stay away if yr not booked into the resort.
So does that mean it gets refunded or somehow waived if you are staying at the resort?
Mind you, I suppose if you can afford $2k+ per night, dropping a $200 landing fee might be considered small change...

Ayers Rock Connellan charged us $80 last month, but to be fair - it did include 2 nights parking. Mrs QFF did remark that it had the best facilities of all the airports we had seen so far - clearly marked taxi lines, individually marked parking bays, purpose built individual in-ground tie downs, even a "Follow Me" ute that ended up following me to the bowser, but that's another story.
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So does that mean it gets refunded or somehow waived if you are staying at the resort?
According to ERSA, yes.

Ayers Rock Connellan charged us $80 last month, but to be fair - it did include 2 nights parking. Mrs QFF did remark that it had the best facilities of all the airports we had seen so far - clearly marked taxi lines, individually marked parking bays, purpose built individual in-ground tie downs, even a "Follow Me" ute.
Ah, you mean all those things any FBO in the US does for free, in the hope (no requirement) that you buy some gas from them? Which, by the way, they put into your aircraft for you, full service, while you take the courtesy car into town to have your business meeting, or just lunch.

Wouldn't personal and business transport flying in Australia be much more popular if you would actually get this kind of service, at the very least at the major GA airfields?
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Hmmm - yes, agreed - that would be very nice...

Most country towns don't even have a taxi service and we end up walking into town.

But hey - no landing fees! And a healthier pilot population...
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In fairness to the guys at Ayres Rock, on a recent stop in for fuel they waived the landing fee for us so there is some good news out there!
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 14:30
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Rottnest Island..$ 44.00
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...even a "Follow Me" ute that ended up following me to the bowser, but that's another story.
That's more of a "Follow Him", surely.
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They did the same to us, they seemed to be checking against the list, I'm assuming for prior permission and assigning parking. They were more than friendly and quite happy to run my mate over to the exit gate as he was err in a rush to find the bathrooms!
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While we're on the subject of friendly locations then, what about Canberra?

I was impressed by the welcome to Canberra given by the snarling Gestapo member who went out of his way (even though I assume its his job) to let me out of Checkpoint Charlie because I had to much luggage to go through the turnstyle.

I guess its all part of the plan of the owners of Canberra airport to drive all GA away.
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Avalon!

Click here for a laugh. At least their facilities are decent I suppose.
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Check out Nagambie...over the top unless you get to share the landing fee.
You'd have to stay the night (and skivers are smelly)
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Wow, $40 per approach. That is truly ridiculous
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Kowanyama (on Cape Yorke) $110 landing fee plus $82.50 gate unlocking fee. Local member has written to Minister Albanese so problem should soon be solved.
Lombadina(North of Broome) $62.50 per ton plus $40 "fine" if no prior notice given.
Cheers RA
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I envy our counterparts in the US of A where the practice is no charges for landing fees. Even shooting their ILSs are free. Makes a huge difference when if are a student or doing recurrency.
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[code]I envy our counterparts in the US of A where the practice is no charges for landing fees. Even shooting their ILSs are free. Makes a huge difference when if are a student or doing recurrency.[/code]

Ha Ha. As the US economy slowly circles the drain.The good old FAA and its unrestricted, publically topped up, money bucket.
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Even shooting their ILSs are free.
Charging for navaids that radiate all the time is a horse's arse - it'd be different if you had to put money in the meter each time you wanted it to arc up, but for something that pumps out ergs regardless of whether someone's flying an approach or not, it's a blatant rip-off!
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Arm out the window

I hear what you are saying about shooting approaches but with a private ILS the facts are: The thing cost us around $1.5m to install, since it was installed we have had to ante up $1.5m in maintenance costs to Airservices who are the only people allowed to touch them, and what we have now is a worn out old ILS that we need to find $1.5 million to replace. We'd just as soon dig a hole and bury it and forget we ever owned one in pure financial terms. VOR/NDB/DME we can't charge for. Don't own 'em, don't care.
Just sayin.
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Ha Ha. As the US economy slowly circles the drain.The good old FAA and its unrestricted, publically topped up, money bucket.
By "public", you mean the tax on avgas, which by its very nature, is only levied on people why actually, you know, aviate?

Here we have AsA which charges us, then returns tens of millions in dividend to the government, which puts it into general revenue. General revenue which tops of all sorts of road infrastructure that road tax alone can't pay for.

The dividend they pay is just a drop in the ocean for general revenue, but if used just for aviation could make a huge difference to the industry. Same with tax on aviation fuels.
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