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Old 30th Aug 2011, 06:28
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lightweight over heavyweight?

hi guys,

having an argument with some mates- would GA operators on light singles and twins (c200 barons etc) take a pilot that is 60kg over someone that is say 90kg?

the difference can mean an extra passenger or cargo in many cases
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I was 60kg when I was about 12!!
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Certain GA operators would, definitely.

When I was looking for SE work I was told by one operator (nearly all of his operations were scenics in C200 series and airvans) that at 90kg I was too heavy. He preferred pilots around the 60-65kg mark.

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An operator that I know charges $2.50 per kg for their freight run over a fixed distance.

90-60=30*2.50*150 + return trips a year = $22,500 in lost revenue for a fat pilot

There are suggestions that 1kg a year on an airliner can cost in the 10's of thousands hence why flight crew are expected to be within a certain weight. That and the fact that if you're a fattie you'll struggle to fit down the aisle. Like it or not, thinner people may have more success in renewing their medicals too particularly if your DAME is a BMI Nazi.
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60kg? Are they hiring jockeys or pilots
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I wouldn't hire a fat bastard (if there was a fat bastard & a skinny bastard with equal qualifications)

When I was doing a bit of night freight we would go out full every night. There was a chick pilot on the books and she could load an extra 52kgs above me. Makes sense to hire skinny bastards doesn't it?
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There is a balance,
BMI means squat without actually viewing the individual.
High BMI due to cheeseburgers and beer? fair enough
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i'm not talking overweight/obese i'm just talking regular tall 80-90kg guys....
so there is an advantage being lighter? that's what i'm getting at
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Can a skinny guy lift the required freight/baggage/sickpax?
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I'm 90kg's but tall.

This thread has got me worried
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I would hire a pilot who is 90-95 kg and could look after customers over a pilot who is 60-65 kg, and has the personality of a brick anyday!
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Yeah Fondair, you're gonna have to shed some pounds if you wanna score that airline gig you have been dreaming about.
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Hire Skinny Weight - Already Happens

I know a girl that has been hired for her weight, approx 45kgs. She is now on a PA34 because the operator is able to take IFR fuel reserves. She has also been given a PA31 endo.

Half her luck, or is that half my weight: Both
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I would hire a pilot who is 90-95 kg and could look after customers over a pilot who is 60-65 kg, and has the personality of a brick anyday!
Crikey,
I'm glad after 20 years, I have finally added 3kg.
So where does that put my personality according to your learned observations?

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So where does that put my personality according to your learned observations?
Jas, I don't think AA was implying all lightweight pilots are dull, but he values personality over physique.
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My dream job isnt actually airlines, its doing joyflights in tigermoths.
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Only limitation in a Tiger is that you can squeeze between the fuse frames getting in - and hoist a leg over the side. 90kg should be no problem. Ask Chuckles, he comes close
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Jas, I don't think AA was implying all lightweight pilots are dull, but he values personality over physique.
Spot on Plow King.
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How boring, I was hoping for a new grading system

Was looking in the mirror this morning, not quite sure I like where those 3kg's were added..

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Can a skinny guy lift the required freight/baggage/sickpax?
Well I can lift my mother...she is 120+, is that enough?
In reality, you are not going to be asked to solo lift anything that heavy, lest worksafe get involved.
I'm not sure about todays reg, but for guys the max solo lift allowance used to be 45kg, and I can only ever see them grading that downwards in any review of the law.

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In reality, you are not going to be asked to solo lift anything that heavy, lest worksafe get involved.
Sure about that? During my nightfreight time I'd regularly shift up to 750kg on and off a PA31 by myself. If I did two return trips, 2-3 tonnes over the night was common.

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