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c173 30th Aug 2011 06:28

lightweight over heavyweight?
 
hi guys,

having an argument with some mates- would GA operators on light singles and twins (c200 barons etc) take a pilot that is 60kg over someone that is say 90kg?

the difference can mean an extra passenger or cargo in many cases

wishiwasupthere 30th Aug 2011 06:41

I was 60kg when I was about 12!!

Di_Vosh 30th Aug 2011 06:55

Certain GA operators would, definitely.

When I was looking for SE work I was told by one operator (nearly all of his operations were scenics in C200 series and airvans) that at 90kg I was too heavy. He preferred pilots around the 60-65kg mark.

DIVOSH!

VH-XXX 30th Aug 2011 07:10

An operator that I know charges $2.50 per kg for their freight run over a fixed distance.

90-60=30*2.50*150 + return trips a year = $22,500 in lost revenue for a fat pilot :oh:

There are suggestions that 1kg a year on an airliner can cost in the 10's of thousands hence why flight crew are expected to be within a certain weight. That and the fact that if you're a fattie you'll struggle to fit down the aisle. Like it or not, thinner people may have more success in renewing their medicals too particularly if your DAME is a BMI Nazi.

b_sta 30th Aug 2011 07:14

60kg? Are they hiring jockeys or pilots :hmm:

Jack Ranga 30th Aug 2011 07:20

I wouldn't hire a fat bastard (if there was a fat bastard & a skinny bastard with equal qualifications)

When I was doing a bit of night freight we would go out full every night. There was a chick pilot on the books and she could load an extra 52kgs above me. Makes sense to hire skinny bastards doesn't it?

Bounceferret 30th Aug 2011 07:50

There is a balance,
BMI means squat without actually viewing the individual.
High BMI due to cheeseburgers and beer? fair enough

c173 30th Aug 2011 09:03

i'm not talking overweight/obese i'm just talking regular tall 80-90kg guys....
so there is an advantage being lighter? that's what i'm getting at

Runaway Gun 30th Aug 2011 09:07

Can a skinny guy lift the required freight/baggage/sickpax? ;)

Fondair 30th Aug 2011 09:23

I'm 90kg's but tall.

This thread has got me worried :(

AerobaticArcher 30th Aug 2011 10:14

I would hire a pilot who is 90-95 kg and could look after customers over a pilot who is 60-65 kg, and has the personality of a brick anyday!

VH-XXX 30th Aug 2011 10:19

Yeah Fondair, you're gonna have to shed some pounds if you wanna score that airline gig you have been dreaming about. :\

Omega471 30th Aug 2011 10:36

Hire Skinny Weight - Already Happens
 
I know a girl that has been hired for her weight, approx 45kgs. She is now on a PA34 because the operator is able to take IFR fuel reserves. She has also been given a PA31 endo.

Half her luck, or is that half my weight: Both :bored:

jas24zzk 30th Aug 2011 12:07


I would hire a pilot who is 90-95 kg and could look after customers over a pilot who is 60-65 kg, and has the personality of a brick anyday!
Crikey,
I'm glad after 20 years, I have finally added 3kg.
So where does that put my personality according to your learned observations?

:confused:

Plow King 30th Aug 2011 12:58


So where does that put my personality according to your learned observations?
Jas, I don't think AA was implying all lightweight pilots are dull, but he values personality over physique.

Fondair 30th Aug 2011 13:02

My dream job isnt actually airlines, its doing joyflights in tigermoths.

CHAIRMAN 30th Aug 2011 13:12

Only limitation in a Tiger is that you can squeeze between the fuse frames getting in - and hoist a leg over the side. 90kg should be no problem. Ask Chuckles, he comes close:ok:

AerobaticArcher 30th Aug 2011 20:00


Jas, I don't think AA was implying all lightweight pilots are dull, but he values personality over physique.
Spot on Plow King.

jas24zzk 30th Aug 2011 21:53

How boring, I was hoping for a new grading system :E:E:E:E:E:E:E

Was looking in the mirror this morning, not quite sure I like where those 3kg's were added.. :ugh:

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Back on topic


Runaway Gun
Can a skinny guy lift the required freight/baggage/sickpax?
Well I can lift my mother...she is 120+, is that enough?
In reality, you are not going to be asked to solo lift anything that heavy, lest worksafe get involved.
I'm not sure about todays reg, but for guys the max solo lift allowance used to be 45kg, and I can only ever see them grading that downwards in any review of the law.

Jas

Di_Vosh 30th Aug 2011 23:18


In reality, you are not going to be asked to solo lift anything that heavy, lest worksafe get involved.
Sure about that? During my nightfreight time I'd regularly shift up to 750kg on and off a PA31 by myself. If I did two return trips, 2-3 tonnes over the night was common.

DIVOSH!


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