MERGED: Alligator Airways Grounded
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From: Enzed
What I've never been able to figure out is what's so great about the Bungles that there's enough punters to have even one flight per day to look at them, let alone several operators doing several flights per day. 
Before you ask, Yep I've seen them, I didn't have to pay to seen them and if I did would have asked for my money back.
However the trip up the Ord River and seeing the bats fly just on sunset at Kunnas is another thing, worth every cent.
Before you ask, Yep I've seen them, I didn't have to pay to seen them and if I did would have asked for my money back.
However the trip up the Ord River and seeing the bats fly just on sunset at Kunnas is another thing, worth every cent.
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: north of nowhere
CC LMFAO
The only way that they should be permitted to get back in the air is IF the current owner is removed from the equation. He would have to be the most arrogant person I have come across in GA. The contempt he shows for his CP, pilots and the rules/regs is disgusting. Stand up to him by refusing to bend the rules and you are dismissed on the spot...where is the support from the CP ???? hahahahaha
About time MB grew a set!
Now it is time for CASA to start getting serious about making aviation in the kimberlies a safer place. All they would have to do is seek out some of the ex CPs and pilots that have worked there in the last 3 years. Some of the stories they could tell...
Love it
The only way that they should be permitted to get back in the air is IF the current owner is removed from the equation. He would have to be the most arrogant person I have come across in GA. The contempt he shows for his CP, pilots and the rules/regs is disgusting. Stand up to him by refusing to bend the rules and you are dismissed on the spot...where is the support from the CP ???? hahahahaha
The CP resigned 3 weeks ago. His approval was not revoked as he informed CASA he wanted nothing more to do with the company
Now it is time for CASA to start getting serious about making aviation in the kimberlies a safer place. All they would have to do is seek out some of the ex CPs and pilots that have worked there in the last 3 years. Some of the stories they could tell...
SEE YA LATER ALLIGATOR!!!!
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From: trailerpark
NWF........tell him he's dreamin.
As if CASA would ever think to do that. Lets hope they take the time to read this forum and take notes. Suspect there is a long list of ex Gator people that would like to tell their story.
As if CASA would ever think to do that. Lets hope they take the time to read this forum and take notes. Suspect there is a long list of ex Gator people that would like to tell their story.
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From: In the clouds
I suppose RK knows something that lycoming and Gippsland don't know hey?
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From: earth
couldn't agree more!!!!
Ahh the memories..... every time i hear the phrase "I'm telling you" i still hear that 
Rhodesians voice 
also the hilarious impressions, which still appear on occasions when sharing war stories with fellow ex pilots over a quiet brew or 7, with the stories that come from that place, we could (and do) go on for hours!
But seriously I am still astounded at the level of malpractice and negligence that has continued there completely unchecked. It was bad when I left, but it seems to be even worse now.
Now my opinion may be slightly biased, as I am a member of the illustrious "sacked by RK for no apparent reason whatsoever" group (as I'm sure many of my fellow pruner's are) But the man is egotistical, idiotic and down right dangerous to pilots and punters alike, his association with any aviation in Australia cannot end soon enough in my books. My only hope is that ending doesn't involve someone getting hurt.
On a lighter note, I had a great time during my stint at gator, and I put that down to a great bunch of fellow pilots and a good CP. It is sad to think that it could be a fantastic place to work and cut your teeth in this game, if only it was run by the right people
TG
Rhodesians voice also the hilarious impressions, which still appear on occasions when sharing war stories with fellow ex pilots over a quiet brew or 7, with the stories that come from that place, we could (and do) go on for hours!But seriously I am still astounded at the level of malpractice and negligence that has continued there completely unchecked. It was bad when I left, but it seems to be even worse now.
Now my opinion may be slightly biased, as I am a member of the illustrious "sacked by RK for no apparent reason whatsoever" group (as I'm sure many of my fellow pruner's are) But the man is egotistical, idiotic and down right dangerous to pilots and punters alike, his association with any aviation in Australia cannot end soon enough in my books. My only hope is that ending doesn't involve someone getting hurt.
On a lighter note, I had a great time during my stint at gator, and I put that down to a great bunch of fellow pilots and a good CP. It is sad to think that it could be a fantastic place to work and cut your teeth in this game, if only it was run by the right people
TG
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From: Hollister, Hilo, Pago Pago, Norfolk Is., Brisbane, depending which day of the week it is...
Yup. With one of them following me onto 12 and another two rolling with 5-10 kts behind them on 30 as we're turning downwind.
And all of us departing in the same direction.....
And all of us departing in the same direction.....
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Behind a CB near you
Fixed gear only???? HAHAHA that is funny.
I don't know the new guy.... wish I did. I could do with a laugh today!!!
Lucky they didn't get rid of good old IXE. Unless that Islander is actually flying it will be the saviour of the premium twin side of the operation
RK will be crying that "No-one can flaa maa Aztec". Or his PA31 ... because "I'm telling you, they are the BEST planes".
Watch out Gator pilots..... you'll see an edict come out that the Seneca, Aztec and Chieftain are still to be flown..... but only with the GEAR DOWN! That way they'll be in compliance with the limitations CASA has imposed on them.
"I'm telling you..... "they will all faa faane with the gear down. It will just add 15 minutes to a Kalumburu trip. Go and flaa maa Aztec with the gear down. Do it now! I will pull the Circuit Breaker for you and sign it off as fixed undercarriage" (or maybe mini-me will)
I don't know the new guy.... wish I did. I could do with a laugh today!!!
Lucky they didn't get rid of good old IXE. Unless that Islander is actually flying it will be the saviour of the premium twin side of the operation
RK will be crying that "No-one can flaa maa Aztec". Or his PA31 ... because "I'm telling you, they are the BEST planes".
Watch out Gator pilots..... you'll see an edict come out that the Seneca, Aztec and Chieftain are still to be flown..... but only with the GEAR DOWN! That way they'll be in compliance with the limitations CASA has imposed on them.
"I'm telling you..... "they will all faa faane with the gear down. It will just add 15 minutes to a Kalumburu trip. Go and flaa maa Aztec with the gear down. Do it now! I will pull the Circuit Breaker for you and sign it off as fixed undercarriage" (or maybe mini-me will)
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From: The Shire
What did Matt do? Land gear up in the Chieftain or something?
I 'spose CASA can't really point the bone. After Craig refurbished a C206 Amphib (after it had done a gear down landing on water and flipped) CASA decided to do the first test flight. Of course they landed it with the wheels down on Lake Argyle too
Craig was pretty pissed!
After that, there was no more Amphibious aircraft in the fleet, only float planes.
P.S I heard Rob wants to put floats on a fleet of ex Rhodesian airforce Aztecs and do RPT to Kalumburu. Reckons he'll bankrupt Skywest within a year. Any truth to this one?
I 'spose CASA can't really point the bone. After Craig refurbished a C206 Amphib (after it had done a gear down landing on water and flipped) CASA decided to do the first test flight. Of course they landed it with the wheels down on Lake Argyle too
Craig was pretty pissed!
After that, there was no more Amphibious aircraft in the fleet, only float planes.
P.S I heard Rob wants to put floats on a fleet of ex Rhodesian airforce Aztecs and do RPT to Kalumburu. Reckons he'll bankrupt Skywest within a year. Any truth to this one?
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From: Turkmenistan
I hear the CP is now only limited to FIXED gear aircraft
Bahahahahahaha ..... CP limited to fixed gear aircraft !!!!! More people would find this funny if they have met the CP and had a had a conversation with him
Fixed gear only???? HAHAHA that is funny.
I don't know the new guy.... wish I did. I could do with a laugh today!!!
I don't know the new guy.... wish I did. I could do with a laugh today!!!
Go down to Albany and have a look at the scrape marks on the runway from 6 weeks ago, then go have a look in West Stars hangar at the 210 with its guts scraped out. The thing didnt even get to do 100 hours after coming in from the states before it was gutsed.
That and maybe the 310 he gutsed a few years ago and CASA probably decided welded gear only is the best option for this bloke
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From: The Shire
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I hear the CP is now only limited to FIXED gear aircraft Quote:
Bahahahahahaha ..... CP limited to fixed gear aircraft !!!!! More people would find this funny if they have met the CP and had a had a conversation with him
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Fixed gear only???? HAHAHA that is funny.
I don't know the new guy.... wish I did. I could do with a laugh today!!!
Go down to Albany and have a look at the scrape marks on the runway from 6 weeks ago, then go have a look in West Stars hangar at the 210 with its guts scraped out. The thing didnt even get to do 100 hours after coming in from the states before it was gutsed.
That and maybe the 310 he gutsed a few years ago and CASA probably decided welded gear only is the best option for this bloke
I hear the CP is now only limited to FIXED gear aircraft Quote:
Bahahahahahaha ..... CP limited to fixed gear aircraft !!!!! More people would find this funny if they have met the CP and had a had a conversation with him
Quote:
Fixed gear only???? HAHAHA that is funny.
I don't know the new guy.... wish I did. I could do with a laugh today!!!
Go down to Albany and have a look at the scrape marks on the runway from 6 weeks ago, then go have a look in West Stars hangar at the 210 with its guts scraped out. The thing didnt even get to do 100 hours after coming in from the states before it was gutsed.
That and maybe the 310 he gutsed a few years ago and CASA probably decided welded gear only is the best option for this bloke
Didn't know about GS's little belly flops, I'll have to give him a call and give him some stick!
Having him appointed is a very positive thing. He will be able to stand up to the owner and mentor the 200 hour new hires.
I suspect compliance with flight and duty times will now become mandatory rather than pencil whipping exercises
