Skywest All Stations Calls on Centre
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Why do they do it?
Cause it's a requirement at ports without VHF on the ground so has been standardized by some pilots to do it all...
If you make a call on hf you are required to make the same call on area as well... These guys would of been doing this prior to the change to class d last November and it's stuck now. The line between sop's and not eventually gets blurred if they all do it and forget which places it is actually required to do so...
I could also see some guys argueing the point that if it assists in the safety of their aircraft then stuff the rules they're doing it regardless... Which is fine IMO
Cause it's a requirement at ports without VHF on the ground so has been standardized by some pilots to do it all...
If you make a call on hf you are required to make the same call on area as well... These guys would of been doing this prior to the change to class d last November and it's stuck now. The line between sop's and not eventually gets blurred if they all do it and forget which places it is actually required to do so...
I could also see some guys argueing the point that if it assists in the safety of their aircraft then stuff the rules they're doing it regardless... Which is fine IMO
Xcel, you're off on a tangent. We're talking about BME and KTA; both ports have good area-VHF coverage with Centre on the ground. The report on HF and complimentary broadcast on VHF were/are not "required" at those ports.
I can understand it from the Pilot's perspective. I can only alert the crew of known traffic (IFR or VFR) if they are talking to me. They should be below 5500' within the CTA steps but there is no guarantee. Once I transfer them to Centre, ML can only advise them if the VFR is talking to them. There is no surveillance (except ADSB) up here so there is no other option than some sort of call at some point on the centre frequency. It might be better if it was D or C above but still no surveillance.
I think it was mentioned earlier but Qantas do it as well. Not sure about VB or Alliance.
I think it was mentioned earlier but Qantas do it as well. Not sure about VB or Alliance.
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Broome's a problem for the whole TCAS separation idea as there isn't anybody or equipment on the airport capable of testing if the XPNDR is even working...
I know of at least one near miss between a 210 and an E-jet right near the boundary. Neither knew about the other until the jet made its inbound call at 30NM alerting the CAGRO and 210 driver to the conflict, which as it turned out was 2.5NM and no vertical. No TA or RA was given...
I know of at least one near miss between a 210 and an E-jet right near the boundary. Neither knew about the other until the jet made its inbound call at 30NM alerting the CAGRO and 210 driver to the conflict, which as it turned out was 2.5NM and no vertical. No TA or RA was given...
