Cessna Caravan Endorsement in Melbourne?
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Cessna Caravan Endorsement in Melbourne?
Just wanted to know if anyone knew if there is a place in Melbourne or Victoria to do a Cessna Caravan Endorsement if Not where would be the place to go?
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Joker,
Just to clarify, see http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...o40/400100.pdf
CAO 40.1.0 Appendix 1A (p.23 of attached) shows a C208 specifically as needing type endorsement, due to its turbine as mentioned above.
Yes it is a Cessna, no its not a Jumbo, but it really is much bigger than a 182.
VI
Just to clarify, see http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...o40/400100.pdf
CAO 40.1.0 Appendix 1A (p.23 of attached) shows a C208 specifically as needing type endorsement, due to its turbine as mentioned above.
Yes it is a Cessna, no its not a Jumbo, but it really is much bigger than a 182.
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With all due respect I really don't think Meggsy has a Caravan in his hangar to be able to do an endorsement. Best off finding an aircraft first. Caravan's in Melbourne are moderately scarce.
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Commando's have been recently using a 208 from further north. It hasn't been there for a month or two unless I am mistaken. The previous 208B is long gone and wasn't available for endorsements.
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Joker,
I tend to agree with XXX.
The whole <5700kg thing does tend to 'dumb down' the complexities of seemingly 'simple' singles. The ability of guys to jump from type to type, using generic procedures, often results in poor/unsafe handling UNLESS they have the discipline to study the AFM properly.
I don't see it that the regulator is on drugs.
In fact, in many cases, owners/insurers ar far more conservative than the regulator.
Even if current on a C172, for example, I would be unable to hire a C210 from almost any operator in the country without some training/check.
Nothing to do with the regulator in that case.
So in the Caravan's case, as XXX alludes to, the regulator is simply matching what any responsible owner/insurer would naturally impose anyway.
VI
I tend to agree with XXX.
The whole <5700kg thing does tend to 'dumb down' the complexities of seemingly 'simple' singles. The ability of guys to jump from type to type, using generic procedures, often results in poor/unsafe handling UNLESS they have the discipline to study the AFM properly.
I don't see it that the regulator is on drugs.
In fact, in many cases, owners/insurers ar far more conservative than the regulator.
Even if current on a C172, for example, I would be unable to hire a C210 from almost any operator in the country without some training/check.
Nothing to do with the regulator in that case.
So in the Caravan's case, as XXX alludes to, the regulator is simply matching what any responsible owner/insurer would naturally impose anyway.
VI
Lets be serious Joker, if you owned a 208 do you think you'd let a snotty nosed fresh 150 hour CPL fresh out of a 182 drive it?
Ummmm. No
Ummmm. No
I know mates up north flying them needed around 700 hours before being let loose on one, though have heard of some guys with bare CPL and MECIR flying them for sky dive ops up north.
What's a hot section inspection worth on a van these days?
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try and get onto Ralph Presgrave from Australian Skydive at Bridgewater
try this number 1800 557 101.
Also try and get onto "Bowie" from Skydive the Beach at Wollongong his Caravan should be operating around Melbourne by now. 1300663 634
only other i can think of is Sydney Skydivers at Picton, bit of a travel but that Caravan kicks butt with the bigger PT6.
FH
try this number 1800 557 101.
Also try and get onto "Bowie" from Skydive the Beach at Wollongong his Caravan should be operating around Melbourne by now. 1300663 634
only other i can think of is Sydney Skydivers at Picton, bit of a travel but that Caravan kicks butt with the bigger PT6.
FH
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most reliable engine in General aviation
FALSE.
Garret!
most reliable engine in General aviation
FALSE.
Garret!
The only thing that gives Garrett Turbine engines a bad name is that most engineers hate (read can't) working on them. They are quite complex to setup well, and are certainly not as easy to work on as a PT6.
Once a Garrett however is well setup (and you've got it started), you can't beat it!!!
'GG' loved the bit "and you've got it started".............that says it all:-) 
I know which engine/prop combo I'd rather be struck with during start up (if I where a drunk golfer for Eg) & it wouldn't be a Garret TPE that's for sure!
Tough donk though:-)
"VI" Although I tend to agree to some extent yr comment jumping from type to type & poor/unsafe handling as a result it's a mindset (professionalism) as well as previous training as to how anyone handles multiple types. Even though I haven't driven a C208 am sure they aren't a space shuttle to drive, 150 hr pilot or not we where all once a 150 hr driver & most would be very capable at the controls of a basic machine like the big Cessna with again proper training. Still insurance Co's dictate much these days.
Wmk2
I know which engine/prop combo I'd rather be struck with during start up (if I where a drunk golfer for Eg) & it wouldn't be a Garret TPE that's for sure!
Tough donk though:-)"VI" Although I tend to agree to some extent yr comment jumping from type to type & poor/unsafe handling as a result it's a mindset (professionalism) as well as previous training as to how anyone handles multiple types. Even though I haven't driven a C208 am sure they aren't a space shuttle to drive, 150 hr pilot or not we where all once a 150 hr driver & most would be very capable at the controls of a basic machine like the big Cessna with again proper training. Still insurance Co's dictate much these days.
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I'll bet my left nut that if Joker 10 owned a caravan he would not let anyone near it unless they were endorsed on it 
As old mate said when I did my endo, 'turbines are simple beasts, it's the metallurgy that costs the money'
The Caravan is easier to 'fly' than a C152. It's learning how not to 'toast' the PT6 that the endorsement is about
As old mate said when I did my endo, 'turbines are simple beasts, it's the metallurgy that costs the money'
The Caravan is easier to 'fly' than a C152. It's learning how not to 'toast' the PT6 that the endorsement is about
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As elluded to in my OshKosh thread, I came across a guy in an amphibious Caravan whom flew around the world the world in it back in 1990. He was absolutely mad at Dick Smith (no comments please) at the time because back then he was supposedly telling people that flying a 208 is easy and you just "fly it like a 182." Apologies Dick if this didn't happen, however it's something that we often hear around the traps and this guy was adament that this was not good advice.
Boy, what a trip; Around the world in an amphibious Caravan. I think I'd run out of JetA money after a week!
Really?
Boy, what a trip; Around the world in an amphibious Caravan. I think I'd run out of JetA money after a week!
The Caravan is easier to 'fly' than a C152.