NZ C-Cat - Part-time
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NZ C-Cat - Part-time
Hey guys
Just looking for a bit of advice / knowledge / background info/ experiences etc from any of you guy that have done a C-Cat part-time........
Due to work and family commitments I can't or won't be doing a C-Cat at one of the 'big' schools in one hit. Most people seem to think this is in no way a bad thing so I've no worries there. What I'm not sure about though is how it all "fits" together in a part-time scenario.
I'll do an ITC at a recognised provider, I'm hour building at the moment (currently up to a mammoth 130 PIC
). The course though, how does that work? What is the flying component? Is there usually ground school or is it back into self study - will that be sufficient? I understand there is something in the region of 50 lessons to 'memorises'! Lots of questions not many answers are coming to mind.......
Thanks for any pointers.
Just looking for a bit of advice / knowledge / background info/ experiences etc from any of you guy that have done a C-Cat part-time........
Due to work and family commitments I can't or won't be doing a C-Cat at one of the 'big' schools in one hit. Most people seem to think this is in no way a bad thing so I've no worries there. What I'm not sure about though is how it all "fits" together in a part-time scenario.
I'll do an ITC at a recognised provider, I'm hour building at the moment (currently up to a mammoth 130 PIC
). The course though, how does that work? What is the flying component? Is there usually ground school or is it back into self study - will that be sufficient? I understand there is something in the region of 50 lessons to 'memorises'! Lots of questions not many answers are coming to mind.......Thanks for any pointers.
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Where to start?
Arh yes the age ol what am I in for?
The CCAT is something you can do part time but you will find it begins to take over. I'm sure you know, part time drags over what full time can offer. If you aren't worried about that aspect, then that is ok.
You will need to do the I.T course. Instructor techniques. Some of these courses are run on a "enough people" basis. Mark Woodhouse runs some here and there.
In terms of the study and flying, this will depend on the chosen place to learn. Where I did mine, the ground theory was self study mainly. You will want to get a hold of the aviation theory centre's Principles of Flight book, Kermodes Mechanics of Flight (will help), a good Met reference, and get that law printed.
Again the place I did my CCAT and BCAT through, we did the flying as follows:
Lesson 1: Instructor Gives me the Lesson
Lesson 2: I give the instructor the lesson
Instructor give me the next lesson
So on and so forth. Breifings can be done on a rainy. Again the instructor will deliver the breifing and then you will take notes and listen to examples and explanations, and then next day you will deliver it back.
Its an art form that will take a little while to become familar with.
Tips:
All they are really looking for is, is this person capable at guiding someone through the processes of teaching them how to fly. Communication is important, you need to be able to explain things in a different manner i.e the student doesn't quite follow that first explanation.
Keep things simple as well. They dont want to hear the masters degree viewpoint on how lift is produced while delivering effects of controls.
I hope this helps. Message me at any time if you like
The CCAT is something you can do part time but you will find it begins to take over. I'm sure you know, part time drags over what full time can offer. If you aren't worried about that aspect, then that is ok.
You will need to do the I.T course. Instructor techniques. Some of these courses are run on a "enough people" basis. Mark Woodhouse runs some here and there.
In terms of the study and flying, this will depend on the chosen place to learn. Where I did mine, the ground theory was self study mainly. You will want to get a hold of the aviation theory centre's Principles of Flight book, Kermodes Mechanics of Flight (will help), a good Met reference, and get that law printed.
Again the place I did my CCAT and BCAT through, we did the flying as follows:
Lesson 1: Instructor Gives me the Lesson
Lesson 2: I give the instructor the lesson
Instructor give me the next lesson
So on and so forth. Breifings can be done on a rainy. Again the instructor will deliver the breifing and then you will take notes and listen to examples and explanations, and then next day you will deliver it back.
Its an art form that will take a little while to become familar with.
Tips:
All they are really looking for is, is this person capable at guiding someone through the processes of teaching them how to fly. Communication is important, you need to be able to explain things in a different manner i.e the student doesn't quite follow that first explanation.
Keep things simple as well. They dont want to hear the masters degree viewpoint on how lift is produced while delivering effects of controls.
I hope this helps. Message me at any time if you like
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Thanks for the advice and offer there cloudhigh. I opened the same subject in the instructors section too (and forgot about this one. Sorry about that).
I guess the main thing for me now is to decide where to do the course. I've been told on several occasions now that you should do the C-Cat where you want to work as most school will take their own students over an unfamiliar new C-Cat. Knowing that we're going to be moving out of the area in the next 6-12 months I'm thinking I should wait until I know where we're going to be......
Cheers
I guess the main thing for me now is to decide where to do the course. I've been told on several occasions now that you should do the C-Cat where you want to work as most school will take their own students over an unfamiliar new C-Cat. Knowing that we're going to be moving out of the area in the next 6-12 months I'm thinking I should wait until I know where we're going to be......
Cheers
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Be careful HF. Thou most operations will offer to either hire you or get you out of supervision after your training, I have heard of one aero club in Auckland that left a new C cat out in the cold. This particular individual had started with them as a student pilot and went right through as a loyal club member spending many dollars. They could not even give them a trial flight!
Get every promise in writing mate.
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Cover all your bases,..... move to Australia, get a flying job on a c208 or 210 mustering, freight etc, good flight hours and food and accomodation provided, and on minimum pay A$35k...now does that sound a lot better than doing a c cat part time and then for your troubles earning $150 with 5hrs in the logbook a week if you are lucky?
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130 hours command and you're expecting him to get a job on a single pilot turbine aircraft Delta??!! jeez the job market must be better than I thought!!!.....or perhaps you meant a C206??!!!! 
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Thanks.
I know there's no guarantee of a job at the end of an Instructors Course but I guess what I need to do is put myself in the best position if you get what I mean.....
As for crossing the ditch and mustering or flying freight, I'd love to but my circumstances (sole income provider / young family etc) means that at this stage at least an instructor rating and then a part time gig (if I can find one), until my wife goes back to work is a good option for me.
I know there's no guarantee of a job at the end of an Instructors Course but I guess what I need to do is put myself in the best position if you get what I mean.....
As for crossing the ditch and mustering or flying freight, I'd love to but my circumstances (sole income provider / young family etc) means that at this stage at least an instructor rating and then a part time gig (if I can find one), until my wife goes back to work is a good option for me.
