Oxford Aviation Academy ripping off Jetstar applicants
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This is a honest question. Why would a 2000+ with ATPL pilot apply to a cadet program?????
Seems like those guys that are 30 and go out trying to pick up 18 year old girls, a bit desperate.
Can they not get any job otherwise? AFAP seems to have a heap of jobs for just that sort of pilot not to mention that Jetstar just advertised for direct entry FO positions in NZ and Singapore.
Seems like those guys that are 30 and go out trying to pick up 18 year old girls, a bit desperate.
Can they not get any job otherwise? AFAP seems to have a heap of jobs for just that sort of pilot not to mention that Jetstar just advertised for direct entry FO positions in NZ and Singapore.
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it looks like it's not just happening in Australia alone, take a look at the Fragrant Harbour forum.
Ever since Cathay opened their cadetship on the international level, even people with over 1000 hours are applying for it......
As I am still in-experience in the industry, I wouldn't know how to comment on this situation, the only thing I gotta is: "I've got a bad feeling about this".
worldwide cadetship just seems like it's diverting the programme away from its original aim of training (quality) pilot, it's more like "Ooooo we need to have more pilots in the cockpit just to satisfy the legal requirement for having the minimum crew......doesn't matter if they know how to fly, it's like using Window XP anyway."
Sad to see im trying to enter such industry (tho I still love flying....), it was once something I looked up to......
Ever since Cathay opened their cadetship on the international level, even people with over 1000 hours are applying for it......
As I am still in-experience in the industry, I wouldn't know how to comment on this situation, the only thing I gotta is: "I've got a bad feeling about this".
worldwide cadetship just seems like it's diverting the programme away from its original aim of training (quality) pilot, it's more like "Ooooo we need to have more pilots in the cockpit just to satisfy the legal requirement for having the minimum crew......doesn't matter if they know how to fly, it's like using Window XP anyway."
Sad to see im trying to enter such industry (tho I still love flying....), it was once something I looked up to......
An ATPL with no multi time? Really? How does that work? How many singles are there out there that have a requirement in the flight manual to be flown two pilot?
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While there might be no multi engine requirements stated it is going to be a bit hard to compy with the following when it come to the flight test for the ATPL. I quote from the relevant AC for Part 61
Aircraft, equipment and facilities required for the flight test
An aeroplane is to be a multi-engine aeroplane of at least 5700 kilograms MCTOW or a multiengine
aeroplane which the Director has approved as performing to the equivalent operational
standard as an aircraft used in airline operations
Also I think you miss my point about multi crew and singles.
The main privilege of an ATPL is to be P in C of a multi pilot crew for hire and reward, so why would you bother with an ATPL on a single that doesn't have the need for two crew?
I think you need to have a look through the requirements for an ATPL(a). There is no requirement for Multi-Engine or Multi-Crew experience
Aircraft, equipment and facilities required for the flight test
An aeroplane is to be a multi-engine aeroplane of at least 5700 kilograms MCTOW or a multiengine
aeroplane which the Director has approved as performing to the equivalent operational
standard as an aircraft used in airline operations
Also I think you miss my point about multi crew and singles.
The main privilege of an ATPL is to be P in C of a multi pilot crew for hire and reward, so why would you bother with an ATPL on a single that doesn't have the need for two crew?
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We are obviously talking about different things. I was referring to an Aussie ATPL, which does not require multi-crew or multi-engine time (strangely enough), or even a flight test for that matter. I don't know anything about requirements for an NZ ATPL if that's what you are talking about.
We are obviously talking about different things. I was referring to an Aussie ATPL, which does not require multi-crew or multi-engine time (strangely enough), or even a flight test for that matter. I don't know anything about requirements for an NZ ATPL if that's what you are talking about.
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Jetstar: OAA or CTC
hi everyone,
I read plent of information on the OAA and CTC programme by Jetstar, but there is not chance of contacting anyone.
Can anyone tell me which one of these to options is the better one?
Cheers,
Tim
I read plent of information on the OAA and CTC programme by Jetstar, but there is not chance of contacting anyone.
Can anyone tell me which one of these to options is the better one?
Cheers,
Tim
I read plent of information on the OAA and CTC programme by Jetstar, but there is not chance of contacting anyone.
Can anyone tell me which one of these to options is the better one?
Can anyone tell me which one of these to options is the better one?
Since you asked.................
One is like putting a loaded gun to your head with your left hand and pulling the trigger amd the other is doing the same but with your right hand.
Your choice really.