VH-PGW PA-31P-350 15 June 2010 Crash Investigation
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When such an event happens the damage to the engine is nasty thru sever detonation problems causing failure of some moving parts within hence the 'dead stop'.
Jet fulel in a recip engine?
Many years ago, Bob Hoover had his recip engine Shrike refueled with Jet A1 at Brown Field, near the Mexican Border in Southern California: Note both engines quit after departure not far out of Brown!!! Quoted interview below:
"Mike Busch asks:
You mentioned some in-flight emergencies in the P-51. Ever had any in the Shrike?
Bob Hoover:
Mike....Yes...I participated in an event at Brown Field, and upon departing, I had been serviced with jet fuel (with recip engines) and both engines quit producing power yet completely normal readings.
I was heading north out of Brown Field, and I didn't have enough power to turn back and land, and in that area there are nothing but deep ravines, really deep....
and I pulled up at the last instant, and slammed into the side of a ravine, but I had the airplane slowed up enough so that nobody was hurt.
We hit a rock pile after about 200 feet of forward movement...but we all got out OK.
"Mike Busch asks:
You mentioned some in-flight emergencies in the P-51. Ever had any in the Shrike?
Bob Hoover:
Mike....Yes...I participated in an event at Brown Field, and upon departing, I had been serviced with jet fuel (with recip engines) and both engines quit producing power yet completely normal readings.
I was heading north out of Brown Field, and I didn't have enough power to turn back and land, and in that area there are nothing but deep ravines, really deep....
and I pulled up at the last instant, and slammed into the side of a ravine, but I had the airplane slowed up enough so that nobody was hurt.
We hit a rock pile after about 200 feet of forward movement...but we all got out OK.
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I still think jeta1 may have caused this accident its obvious that 1 engine was shut down and the other was almost dead and he seemed to be going fine untill the last few seconds
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Ejet3, how about you go shove your head back wherever you pulled it out of. It is clear you are either an uninformed member of the media, or just a troll looking to stir. You have only joined recently, and only posted in this thread, and a good deal later than the event and are just repeating stuff that others have already said or asked.
Really, just go f@$k off.
Really, just go f@$k off.
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Ejet3, how about you go shove your head back wherever you pulled it out of. It is clear you are either an uninformed member of the media, or just a troll looking to stir. You have only joined recently, and only posted in this thread, and a good deal later than the event and are just repeating stuff that others have already said or asked.
Really, just go f@$k off.
Really, just go f@$k off.
Why don't u do more research I have posted in other threads i see you have posted maybe a dozen times on this accident does this make you know it all?, I’m not some 33 year old who fly’s his desk every night and read every post , what do you do for a living? I bet your some second officer and just sits on guard all day stirring the pot and doing Jepp amendments and sucking up to the captain!
I have been reading on this thread and the previous one, I am just like everybody else and want to find out what happened this is a rumor forum isn’t what is your problem?
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Ejet,
Don't you think if it was jeta1 there would be another 5 aircraft that crashed at bankstown? Did you read the preliminary report? Or is your head to far up your a** speculating and not looking at the real facts?
Don't you think if it was jeta1 there would be another 5 aircraft that crashed at bankstown? Did you read the preliminary report? Or is your head to far up your a** speculating and not looking at the real facts?
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EJetE or whatever - You Ignoramus
You obnoxious little sh1t.
Could you please explain why the aircraft climbed to 7000 odd feet before the effect of your "tanks full of Jet A1" theory were evident?
I think you owe many people a deep apology.
Now is good
Could you please explain why the aircraft climbed to 7000 odd feet before the effect of your "tanks full of Jet A1" theory were evident?
I think you owe many people a deep apology.
Now is good
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Like i said this is a rumor forum and that was what i heard from around the airport and the people i work with! i heard the tanks where topped off with jeta1 so whoooop1991 if u dont like what I have to say then don't read it!
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Awwwww come on guys, everybody knows that if you accidentally put JET A1 into your MS Flight Sim Mojave, you can easily get to 7000' before anything happens...
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whooop191 had a good point,
reading the preliminary report, the ATSB noted that the aircraft was filled up with AVGAS.
Not JetA1 - AVGAS............
The investigators are not idiots - they are in fact very experienced. I am sure that they too were initially looking at what type of fuel was put into the a/c tanks. Hence the reason they noted that it was filled up with AVGAS
Not JetA1 - AVGAS..........
how are you people not getting this....???
reading the preliminary report, the ATSB noted that the aircraft was filled up with AVGAS.
Not JetA1 - AVGAS............
The investigators are not idiots - they are in fact very experienced. I am sure that they too were initially looking at what type of fuel was put into the a/c tanks. Hence the reason they noted that it was filled up with AVGAS
Not JetA1 - AVGAS..........
how are you people not getting this....???
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I completely understand why people want this thread shut, I personally don't approve of speculating. The thing that is inappropriate is when people continue to speculate on issues that have already been addressed.