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Old 26th Jun 2010, 07:18
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ALL landings are due to a lack of height!
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 08:51
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If you are a student have a long chat to your instructor about it.
Especially if the instructor is a grade three....junior or senior
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 10:23
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Structural Failure
Sabotage
Bad Weather
Mid Air Collision
Human Factors
CFIT
Ground Accidents

See Accident statistics for causes of aviation accidents and u will know for yourself.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but haven't all (except a handfull of accidents) been due to a lack of height?
Disambiguity due to incroguity of capacity of handfulls!
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 10:58
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Three for three there is a bit of a pattern developing there !. The old mate network reports it as having struck 300 meters short of 03 which is not far from where the oxley airlines chieftain crashed many years ago
It Could easily have been another Willow Bank.

I understand there are now two operators there offering skydiving in Coffs one run under skydive Byron and the other is the operator of the accident aircraft Coffs city skydivers, Mark Brody is no longer the owner.

Who is fixing the aircraft at Coffs these days, I hear JD has retired.
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 11:47
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Who did Mark sell to and when did they replace the 182's Mark was running? I still remember Mark and Neil flying those around when I got my GFPT at Coffs Harbour Aero Club a good number of years ago. Lucky he didn't end up in the creek and even luckier the wind wasn't favoring 21 or worse still lucky he didn't have an EFAT on 28!

Good job that he got it down though.

Last I heard JD was travelling around oz.
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 12:01
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Maintenance facilty

Unfortunately there is no maintenance facility at Coffs at the moment. What is GA coming to when such a large reginal airport can't support a maintenance facility. The lack of qualified LAMEs is starting to show and it is only going to get worse as more and more reach retirement age.
Anyone know a LAME that might be interested in moving to Coffs to run a maintenance facility? PM me if you wish.
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Old 27th Jun 2010, 07:33
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Brody sold out to Steve Hill (Hilly in the DZ scene). Brody was x-hiring out TXI and his other Blue 182 to Hilly when he needed them.

TXI was then bought by Hilly, few months later the engine quit, then they had another 182, again engine quit and now this C207...not too sure if it was a x-hire or owned.

The other operator in Coffs (Skydive Coffs) is the more professional one (plus the pilot actually gets paid there)

MB was very strict on how he wanted his aircraft to be flown. Once he sold the business it all fell to bits.

JD has shut up shop and is travelling around OZ, wonder if he ever got his bus sorted?
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 04:03
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Disambiguity due to incroguity of capacity of handfulls!
No one ever collided with the sky, but what goes up, must come down at some point. They are ALL caused by a "lack of height".
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 04:42
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Given the area the aircraft ended up in this thread should be "C207 crashes short at Coffs"

picture here Five people survive plane crash | Coffs Coast News | Local News in Coffs Coast | Coffs Coast Advocate
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 09:59
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call sign

pretty sure that the jumping scene is referring this 207 as VH FIF, if so this was based at wilton (picton) in the eighties. called the flying coke can as painted red and Grahem Hill used it for the Coke and 2SM demos. Piece of junk it had two goes at me both on takeoff. always crap and water in the fuel lines. last i saw it was in Ayre painted white. can't fool me i went to the pub.
So it stopped at 4,000 ft and did not get it back. first i heard of a restart, what then it stopped again? my first guess was ice, but they say it ran out of fuel. some students on board but pilot wanted everyone to stay in the aircraft. don't figure if you over head almost. and they are a bit of a lead sled. I would have gone for help
As for power failures i too taught my self to fly in the bad old days of ultralights (real ones not this pesudo GA crap) and still fly the same ones today and have over 60 power failures. Only one rule, DEAL WITH IT!
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 23:25
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my first guess was ice
Excuse me!!!! How does that work then?
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 04:36
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Carby Ice Brian, you know...its been around almost as long as you have

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Old 29th Jun 2010, 05:07
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That would be the carburetor on the APU?
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 05:34
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I think this aircraft has been modified to have an IO-550 in it.
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 06:44
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I'm not sure that the original IO-520 fitted to the C207 would be any more prone to Carby ice than the IO-550.

Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 08:09
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That would be the carburetor on the APU?

You guys crack me up.........I make one cheeky silly remark and you all have to go one better .

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Old 29th Jun 2010, 08:31
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Horatio - my point exactly.
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 09:25
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I'm not sure that the original IO-520 fitted to the C207 would be any more prone to Carby ice than the IO-550.

Maybe I'm wrong.
but with a O-550... you could keep you beer cold in there!
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 10:03
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The O-550 must be a new one developed especially for the C209 - haven't found one sitting under the bonnet yet.....plenty of IO-520 and IO-550 though but no 0-550's....gotta be good for one of those Heineken mini kegs if you can find one to stash it in
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 11:35
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The O-550 must be a south oz thing..... hadn't come across one myself until moving down here
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