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Dick Smith: Do You Agree With The Mandatory Broadcast Area in Class E Above D?

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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 09:35
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Silence! Isn't it sweet?
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 09:40
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thanks owen did i hear you say clearance denied?

Seriously, and im sure comrade julia would agree, the big sky profit tax should be levied on both the amount of public airspace consumed by airservices and the major airlines and the profit they make.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 10:18
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Desmotronic, consider that the dry season is far busier than the wet and also that the RPT jet movements tend to be squeezed into a small part of each day and you'll see that even if the numbers suggest the place is not too busy on average, there are periods of daily and seasonal peak activity when it is very busy.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 11:12
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well this is the dry season a whopping 10 airline aircraft daily between 9am and 9pm..

http://www.broomeair.com.au/document...ekschedule.pdf
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 11:36
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Broome only has half a dozen rpt jets a day??
and.......
I doesnt matter what you say 3270 airline movements is still only 4 or 5 airline aircraft per day with 2 movements each. 1 in 1 out.

In addition to that there are 6 regional airline movements per day
now I am guilty as the next bloke at times for approximate numbers, or just wild guesses, but your last post shows a document with 20 RPT movements a day.

now thats almost 50 - 100% more more than you were suggesting when slagging Ozbus.

If you are going to attack, do it with some accuracy, or a lot closer to the mark at least.

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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 12:27
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Off those schedules the busiest hour most days (1300 - 1400) still only has 4 jet(?) RPT movements. 2 arrivals and 2 departures. Used to do that OCTA in Gove back in the 80's with just an FSO. AND in the end they decided they didn't even need that.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 12:38
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Maybe so........but Gove probably does not have all the other IFR and VFR traffic even today!
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 12:45
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OS - can I fly in your airspace please?

Yesterday I distinctly heard the clearance not available - remain outside controlled airspace instruction. I was definitely the statue - my 6 minute sector ended up taking 15. The departure leg was not much better. Nine minutes delay is not long - but on this short sector the variable costs including fuel cost the company 250% of what they normally would.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 13:09
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I agree (although it was pretty busy around the jet times usually). But on those schedules most hours of the day are lucky to have 2 jet movements.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 14:58
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It's not so much the number of jet movements, it's all the other stuff happening as well, microlight, VFR scenic guys, parachuting, float planes, Coastwatch Dash 8s, little IFR guys, helicopters to the rigs, helicopters to Willie Creek, etc. Most of the time it's ok, but every now and then it all happens at once and it turns into a ****-fight. I've had to sit on the ground with engines running for 40 minutes once waiting for a lull in the inbounds. I think I had something like 17 callsigns written down, all with an eta of 1 - 2 minutes apart from each other. A big part of the problem is the lack of a full length taxiway for the bigger aircraft so anything that's a Dash 8 or bigger requires a significant delay for the backtrack, particularly when there's an easterly.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 15:27
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Hi Owen,

We hope and pray - but you and I both know that the Caucus runs the Labour Party - so it ain't so much the person up front.....I think...however....

As far as ASA goes, still the same deadwood at 'the top'......led by the same 'idealists' with the same silly silly ideas....
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 15:49
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Aerocat, your practical experience is no substitute for risk theories and fundamental beliefs.
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 03:30
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Aha Owen,

Then HOW do we get the 'depth' to rise to the TOP..??

SURPRISE ME..!!!!
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 04:26
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Griffo

I think by depth he probably meant, if it were a bath tub with water in it, even an infant could not possibly drown

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Before this thread falls off into the never-never...An interesting point has come up in discussions....Why is there a vail of Class E around Class D in Broome and Karratha?

A VERY POSSIBLE ANSWER- To bring about a mandatory carriage and operation of transponders in class D...

Do you agree with this addition to the requirments for Class D, Mr Smith?
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