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Old 14th Jun 2010, 10:10
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Navajo overshoot

Piper Navajo pilot crashes through fences in Carrum Downs emergency
By Matthew Schulz From: Herald Sun

A LIGHT plane crashed through fences and skidded to a halt in a paddock in sight of one of Melbourne’s busiest tollways this afternoon.

Emergency crews were called to Carrum Downs about 1.45pm after the twin-engined plane with just a pilot aboard, overshot a private runway not far from the Eastlink Tollway.

Air Services Australia spokesman Bryan Nicholson said air traffic controllers at Moorabbin Airport were alerted to the "hard landing", but the flight had not been in controlled airspace at the time.

Ambulance Victoria spokesman Ray Rowe said paramedics were called to the site off the Frankston-Dandenong Rd, between Thompsons and Wedge roads, but the man in his 30s did not need treatment.

That near-miss follows another similar incident near Koo Wee Rup about the same time, when another light aircraft, with two aboard was forced to land in a paddock north of the Tooradin Airport.
The CFA said the pilot and their passenger were not injured
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VH-JBI was the Navajo.
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Lightning strikes twice.

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Was that the one at Point Cook on the weekend?
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Yep, landed RWY 35 when the wind was something like 170/25.
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That is a seriously short strip. I've always wondered if it was a mock strip for forced landing training. Even if you threw it on you'd struggle to get it out without a headwind.
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Woudnt that make lightning striking thrice with Carrum, point cook and tooradin?
17/35 closed at YMPC as per notam. Anyone got more info on this one? Not far from the fence by the looks of things.. Downwind landing perhaps?
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Yep, landed RWY 35 when the wind was something like 170/25.
Already answered above.


What happened at Tooradin?
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"Terrain...pull up......Terrain....pull up".
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Looking at the photo, it is pointing into wind now

Some folk never do work out how a wind sock works do they.
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Looks rather like left hand propeller feathered. Could be more to it than meets the eye.
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Maybe he thought feathering would create less thrust and help slow down...
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What is the published length of that strip?
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17/35 is 1374m according to Jepps.
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The air force (and others), manage to put some fairly hefty equipment down on the strip. Length shouldn't be an issue..... unless you land downwind..

As someone stated earlier tho, could be other issues i guess.. Something that is pretty common for the area (I wasn't in melbourne on the day) is howling northerlies at and above about 1500 ft, and the seabreeze at Ground level. If you were under the pump with some other failures, you might miss it??

The Tooradin issue was mentioned in an earlier post

That near-miss follows another similar incident near Koo Wee Rup about the same time, when another light aircraft, with two aboard was forced to land in a paddock north of the Tooradin Airport.
The CFA said the pilot and their passenger were not injured
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Riteo, the Tooradin one was back in June 2010 when a 912 Skyfox taildragger complete with instructor and student had a poorly running engine however the instructor elected to fly anyway, ignoring the knocking noise he was hearing earlier in the day and crashed into a paddock thus severely damaging the students aircraft.
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Did this just happen at Point Cook recently or a while back?

I can confirm that the runway is 1374m long. Did most of my training there!

Yep, landed RWY 35 when the wind was something like 170/25.
What the hell was the pilot thinking?
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On Saturday or Sunday this weekend.
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The accident happened Saturday afternoon. Runway 17 35 had a notam issued around 6pm. Late tonight the aircraft was moved next to the control tower with 3 to 4 jacks holding it up.

The aircraft was flying in to pick up scouts who had been visiting the RAAF
museum.


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Saturday in melb was a crappy day to go flying really. Did YLIL-YHOT and return in a baron with return departure being just after lunch.

Wind on the ground at ylil was a northerly, but at altitude it was a southerly... this was confirmed as a southerly at YHOT. (35 knots on our tail for the trip)

Was sitting in the 'lounge' at YCEM a lil later when the change came through, and it was a rough transition. Made our viewing of a guy doing his tailie ticket more entertaining.


Interesting comment about #1 donk being feathered...appears that way to me also.
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