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Mick.B 14th Jun 2010 10:10

Navajo overshoot
 
Piper Navajo pilot crashes through fences in Carrum Downs emergency
By Matthew Schulz From: Herald Sun

A LIGHT plane crashed through fences and skidded to a halt in a paddock in sight of one of Melbourne’s busiest tollways this afternoon.

Emergency crews were called to Carrum Downs about 1.45pm after the twin-engined plane with just a pilot aboard, overshot a private runway not far from the Eastlink Tollway.

Air Services Australia spokesman Bryan Nicholson said air traffic controllers at Moorabbin Airport were alerted to the "hard landing", but the flight had not been in controlled airspace at the time.

Ambulance Victoria spokesman Ray Rowe said paramedics were called to the site off the Frankston-Dandenong Rd, between Thompsons and Wedge roads, but the man in his 30s did not need treatment.

That near-miss follows another similar incident near Koo Wee Rup about the same time, when another light aircraft, with two aboard was forced to land in a paddock north of the Tooradin Airport.
The CFA said the pilot and their passenger were not injured

VH-XXX 14th Jun 2010 13:16

VH-JBI was the Navajo.

Draggin_tail 1st Apr 2012 22:57

Lightning strikes twice.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...n_dave/JBI.jpg

VH-XXX 1st Apr 2012 23:17

Was that the one at Point Cook on the weekend?

Draggin_tail 1st Apr 2012 23:33

Yep, landed RWY 35 when the wind was something like 170/25.

eocvictim 2nd Apr 2012 01:27

That is a seriously short strip. I've always wondered if it was a mock strip for forced landing training. Even if you threw it on you'd struggle to get it out without a headwind.

Homesick-Angel 2nd Apr 2012 02:22

Woudnt that make lightning striking thrice with Carrum, point cook and tooradin?
17/35 closed at YMPC as per notam. Anyone got more info on this one? Not far from the fence by the looks of things.. Downwind landing perhaps?

VH-XXX 2nd Apr 2012 02:30


Yep, landed RWY 35 when the wind was something like 170/25.
Already answered above.


What happened at Tooradin?

PA39 2nd Apr 2012 02:38

"Terrain...pull up......Terrain....pull up". :eek:

Jabawocky 2nd Apr 2012 04:43

Looking at the photo, it is pointing into wind now :E

Some folk never do work out how a wind sock works do they.:ooh:

flywatcher 2nd Apr 2012 05:04

Looks rather like left hand propeller feathered. Could be more to it than meets the eye.

Aimpoint 2nd Apr 2012 05:52

Maybe he thought feathering would create less thrust and help slow down...

Pilotette 2nd Apr 2012 07:57

What is the published length of that strip?

Horatio Leafblower 2nd Apr 2012 08:11

17/35 is 1374m according to Jepps.

Homesick-Angel 2nd Apr 2012 08:46

The air force (and others), manage to put some fairly hefty equipment down on the strip. Length shouldn't be an issue..... unless you land downwind..

As someone stated earlier tho, could be other issues i guess.. Something that is pretty common for the area (I wasn't in melbourne on the day) is howling northerlies at and above about 1500 ft, and the seabreeze at Ground level. If you were under the pump with some other failures, you might miss it??

The Tooradin issue was mentioned in an earlier post


That near-miss follows another similar incident near Koo Wee Rup about the same time, when another light aircraft, with two aboard was forced to land in a paddock north of the Tooradin Airport.
The CFA said the pilot and their passenger were not injured

VH-XXX 2nd Apr 2012 09:11

Riteo, the Tooradin one was back in June 2010 when a 912 Skyfox taildragger complete with instructor and student had a poorly running engine however the instructor elected to fly anyway, ignoring the knocking noise he was hearing earlier in the day and crashed into a paddock thus severely damaging the students aircraft.

TOUCH-AND-GO 2nd Apr 2012 10:49

Did this just happen at Point Cook recently or a while back?

I can confirm that the runway is 1374m long. Did most of my training there!


Yep, landed RWY 35 when the wind was something like 170/25.
What the hell was the pilot thinking? :}

VH-XXX 2nd Apr 2012 11:40

On Saturday or Sunday this weekend.

Jerr 2nd Apr 2012 11:57

The accident happened Saturday afternoon. Runway 17 35 had a notam issued around 6pm. Late tonight the aircraft was moved next to the control tower with 3 to 4 jacks holding it up.

The aircraft was flying in to pick up scouts who had been visiting the RAAF
museum.


JERR

jas24zzk 2nd Apr 2012 12:32

Saturday in melb was a crappy day to go flying really. Did YLIL-YHOT and return in a baron with return departure being just after lunch.

Wind on the ground at ylil was a northerly, but at altitude it was a southerly... this was confirmed as a southerly at YHOT. (35 knots on our tail for the trip)

Was sitting in the 'lounge' at YCEM a lil later when the change came through, and it was a rough transition. Made our viewing of a guy doing his tailie ticket more entertaining.


Interesting comment about #1 donk being feathered...appears that way to me also.


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