Virgin LAME EBA..Discussion
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well done fed sec
i agree and this is what the association has been saying for years....only now we are together on this from all sides [thanks to your team....well some of them]sorry had to say that,if the travelling public dont know who is out there checking their aircraft then its up to our UNION to tell them.......thanks again and keep up the good work......regards "the rim"
I would most certainly prefer an engineer on pushback as I'm sure most of my colleagues.
Had an incident with a fuel leak on startup, engineer had actually disconnected and as we were about to Taxi off he noticed fuel gushing out of #1 engine (so in his blindspot initially). He signalled to us that he wanted to re-connect (his headset) and advised us of the problem.
Now I don't know what the average baggage handler would have done but my guess is that he wouldn't have picked it up to start with and even if he did, my guess is that he would not have signalled to come back to the aircraft. Why do I say this? Because more and more us Pilots and Engineers are seeing this attitude of "not my problem". Luckily the two groups are professional enough to bring something to the attention of others....even if it means being effectively ridiculed by some 18 year old ground crew.
I know I changed the topic towards then end here a bit but man these people working in their offices in the village have absolutely no idea what goes on during day to day ops. The amount of times something is saved by having a skilled workforce is absolutely amazing.
So in short, our engineers are working too hard and deserve every ounce of respect towards their experience and qualifications earnt. I certainly don't want to have to deal with an issue upline just because we didn't have enough supervision of our AME's or whatever.
Good luck to you all!
Had an incident with a fuel leak on startup, engineer had actually disconnected and as we were about to Taxi off he noticed fuel gushing out of #1 engine (so in his blindspot initially). He signalled to us that he wanted to re-connect (his headset) and advised us of the problem.
Now I don't know what the average baggage handler would have done but my guess is that he wouldn't have picked it up to start with and even if he did, my guess is that he would not have signalled to come back to the aircraft. Why do I say this? Because more and more us Pilots and Engineers are seeing this attitude of "not my problem". Luckily the two groups are professional enough to bring something to the attention of others....even if it means being effectively ridiculed by some 18 year old ground crew.
I know I changed the topic towards then end here a bit but man these people working in their offices in the village have absolutely no idea what goes on during day to day ops. The amount of times something is saved by having a skilled workforce is absolutely amazing.
So in short, our engineers are working too hard and deserve every ounce of respect towards their experience and qualifications earnt. I certainly don't want to have to deal with an issue upline just because we didn't have enough supervision of our AME's or whatever.
Good luck to you all!
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You'll NeedABiggerHammer for your next role
Hammer,
Alan (my mate from Dublin) asked me to pass on his everlasting thanks (or "tell dat hammer guy tanks a lot" if I am to quote him correctly).
If you are in the Charlie Q tribe (or even J*) can you come see Alan immediately for a big fat bonus in your next pay cheque. He seems "tink" he will recognise you a mile off.
Sorry, no job if you're not already in mate as he mentioned something about 'poison' in the very next sentence.
Incredible sabotage work nonetheless. A true artiste, for sure.
If you are in the DJ tribe, well..., no..., you couldn't be!!! could you???
Oh! and Alan said when you pop in to see him he would remind you of the old SAS maxim: Big Boys' Games, Big Boys' Rules. He said you would understand that given your military background.
Either way it seems, your reward is coming...and soon.
P2G
Alan (my mate from Dublin) asked me to pass on his everlasting thanks (or "tell dat hammer guy tanks a lot" if I am to quote him correctly).
If you are in the Charlie Q tribe (or even J*) can you come see Alan immediately for a big fat bonus in your next pay cheque. He seems "tink" he will recognise you a mile off.
Sorry, no job if you're not already in mate as he mentioned something about 'poison' in the very next sentence.
Incredible sabotage work nonetheless. A true artiste, for sure.
If you are in the DJ tribe, well..., no..., you couldn't be!!! could you???
Oh! and Alan said when you pop in to see him he would remind you of the old SAS maxim: Big Boys' Games, Big Boys' Rules. He said you would understand that given your military background.
Either way it seems, your reward is coming...and soon.
P2G
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turbantime,fed sec and bigger hammer.
thanks turbantime.Nice to hear things like that.We aint perfect and have differing levels of observation etc but having people out there who know by experience & training when something looks, smells or sounds wrong must stop a few holes in the cheese lining up.
fed sec thank you for your input, I was hoping you'd drop by
and thanks to bigger hammer ( whilst I do disagree with some of your assertions and points.) I have found out pretty much what I wanted after starting the thread.
fed sec thank you for your input, I was hoping you'd drop by
and thanks to bigger hammer ( whilst I do disagree with some of your assertions and points.) I have found out pretty much what I wanted after starting the thread.
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Hammer,
Nope, you are incorrect in the assumption that 'I will bag **** the out of you'. Fed Sec and others in this thread took the words out of my mouth that I would have responded with. Fed Sec has responded factualy, intelligently and accurately - well done !
However, I must retort over this remark of yours-
Now that is funny. I actually suspected you didnt have a sense of humour at one stage, but now I know you do !! I'm starting to like you !
While I know you will bag the **** out of me again for this post, I would like to think you could give me a reasoned and educated response please.
However, I must retort over this remark of yours-
We are not out to rape and pillage our people, lets face it, about 80% of DJ staff are very well paid and the others are well paid for what they do.
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Bigger Hammer what has happened to your valuable contributions to this thread.
My guess is someone next to you in your Brissy hangar has told you to pull your head in.
Does anyone know how the negotiations are going? Hopefully something constructive and positive will come through soon.
My guess is someone next to you in your Brissy hangar has told you to pull your head in.
Does anyone know how the negotiations are going? Hopefully something constructive and positive will come through soon.
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Just to update the play.
Every day the parties have been talking to try and wrap up the words for an agreement. I am to hook up with management at 1330 this arvo and it appears that one outstanding matter remains.
For a job security clause we have been attempting to lock in minimum numbers on dayshift. The last matter is whether Syd numbers should be 11 (our position) or 10 (company position).
If this gets settled today, we will be moving to roadshows and a formal ballot within a couple of weeks.
cheers
Steve
Every day the parties have been talking to try and wrap up the words for an agreement. I am to hook up with management at 1330 this arvo and it appears that one outstanding matter remains.
For a job security clause we have been attempting to lock in minimum numbers on dayshift. The last matter is whether Syd numbers should be 11 (our position) or 10 (company position).
If this gets settled today, we will be moving to roadshows and a formal ballot within a couple of weeks.
cheers
Steve
