Initial Command Instrument Rating on Two Crew Aircraft
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I can’t speak for the Kiwi part of the licence but for the Aus licence, if there is a restriction it will be stated in your licence after you have done your renewal. If there isn’t a restriction then what you are being told by your employer is BS. You can use your rating as you choose up until it expires as long as you meet single pilot currency and approach requirements.
I can’t speak for the Kiwi part of the licence but for the Aus licence, if there is a restriction it will be stated in your licence after you have done your renewal. If there isn’t a restriction then what you are being told by your employer is BS. You can use your rating as you choose up until it expires as long as you meet single pilot currency and approach requirements.
Question. I was informed by a current airline pilot of one of the major domestics, that the renewal of the command instrument rating in her company does not require the usual question and answer session prior to the actual IR test, such as flight time limitations, other CAO relevant to instrument rating renewals, Jepps current, and all those list of things needed ticking off on the back page of the Application for Instrument Rating Test Form.
Obviously if that knowledge is considered by CASA to be unnecessary in the case of airline pilots, why is it considered an important and legal part of the instrument rating renewal for a general aviation pilot?
Obviously if that knowledge is considered by CASA to be unnecessary in the case of airline pilots, why is it considered an important and legal part of the instrument rating renewal for a general aviation pilot?
121.607 check
Part 121.607
Part 61.807
In NZ if you work for a company with AOC under part 119 you complete a competency check. By definition it is not an Instrument Rating flight test as it does not usually include all the mandatory elements for the IR flight test. It does include items that are required for the specific operation for the aircraft type and authorised approvals.
If you want use your IR outside the AOC holder then you must complete a full IR rating check, or another operators part 121.607 competency check.
each pilot acting as a flight crew member of an aeroplane operating under IFR has, within the immediately preceding 6 months, passed a check that is administered by a flight examiner and that—
(i) covers procedures, including emergency procedures, appropriate to the equipment fitted to the aeroplane and to the type of operations to which the pilot is assigned by the certificate holder; and
(ii) is conducted in the same aeroplane type used by the pilot in the operation or in a flight simulator of the same aeroplane type; and
(i) covers procedures, including emergency procedures, appropriate to the equipment fitted to the aeroplane and to the type of operations to which the pilot is assigned by the certificate holder; and
(ii) is conducted in the same aeroplane type used by the pilot in the operation or in a flight simulator of the same aeroplane type; and
(5) if conducting an IFR operation under the authority of an air operator certificate issued in accordance with Part 119, satisfied the IFR competency requirements in Part 121 or 125 as appropriate.
In NZ if you work for a company with AOC under part 119 you complete a competency check. By definition it is not an Instrument Rating flight test as it does not usually include all the mandatory elements for the IR flight test. It does include items that are required for the specific operation for the aircraft type and authorised approvals.
If you want use your IR outside the AOC holder then you must complete a full IR rating check, or another operators part 121.607 competency check.
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Thanks 404Titan..
Thats really good to know. There is no restriction on the CASA license renewal sticker as far as I can see.
Though its been a bloody long time since I flew anything remotely dial like into IFR...
Thats really good to know. There is no restriction on the CASA license renewal sticker as far as I can see.
Though its been a bloody long time since I flew anything remotely dial like into IFR...
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type of operation for currency
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One interpretation of type of operation is fixed wing versus rotary wing, rather than aircraft type, or perhaps even Cat A,B,C or D as a distinction.
One interpretation of type of operation is fixed wing versus rotary wing, rather than aircraft type, or perhaps even Cat A,B,C or D as a distinction.
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Neville,
The IR 'test' is covered in the 3 cyclics/year (i.e matrix items). However, my IR is issued once/year and is valid for 12 months, just like any other IR renewal. I need to get a re-print every year to have a valid 12 month rating. Again, I fail to see evidence in the regs that states that if I leave the company my IR is invalid.
Again that would depend on what sort of system your airline runs. I would suggest that your airline run instrument rating test which then gave you a 12 month time frame.
What we're talking about with Tempo is not doing a IR test just sim 3 times a year, where your IR just rolls on, and is only valid until your next sim.
If Tempo fails a sim then his IR is then no longer valid.
In other airlines your IR test is separate to your sim and you could fail a sim for some reason but your IR is still valid.
What we're talking about with Tempo is not doing a IR test just sim 3 times a year, where your IR just rolls on, and is only valid until your next sim.
If Tempo fails a sim then his IR is then no longer valid.
In other airlines your IR test is separate to your sim and you could fail a sim for some reason but your IR is still valid.
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A little off topic, I'm not so sure about Aus but I had an employer put restrictions on one of my ratings. I called up NZ CAA and en quired about it and they said you either have the rating or you don't. There is no such thing as restrictions on a rating.
By restrictions I mean, you can only use this rating on our aircraft or for our company ops etc
By restrictions I mean, you can only use this rating on our aircraft or for our company ops etc
instrumnet rating is the easiest of all because my close friend told me that he got it so quickly is in it good hey
For New Zealand CAA
A little off topic, I'm not so sure about Aus but I had an employer put restrictions on one of my ratings. I called up NZ CAA and en quired about it and they said you either have the rating or you don't. There is no such thing as restrictions on a rating.
By restrictions I mean, you can only use this rating on our aircraft or for our company ops etc
By restrictions I mean, you can only use this rating on our aircraft or for our company ops etc
If you are doing an airline competency flight check (i.e. Part 121 or 125) it is not transferable as an IR renewal, unless you complete all the requirements of the IR renewal. Some airlines do all the IR exercises and it is an IR renewal. Some airlines do not complete all the IR exercises as per their approved training program and it is recorded as a competency 121.607 check.
