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Landing at Sydney Airport? Info/tips

Old 16th May 2010, 08:36
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Landing at Sydney Airport? Info/tips

Hey,

Has anyone here done this before? Was just wondering if anyone has some information for how much the landing fee's would cost for a C182 or something like that?

And any tips? best times? things to do that you found helped?

Thanks!
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Old 16th May 2010, 08:52
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Search button mate. I've already answered these questions before.

Anyway, call the flow controller in the morning, number in the ERSA, get yourself a slot. Usually the middle of the day is best. Landing fee is something like 250 bucks for a C182.

If youre taking off from bankstown and going direct to sydney, you have to ring the tower before engine start. Otherwise, just call inbound in the usual class C manner. There are 2 frequencies, one for within 45nm and one beyond from memory. I usually just rang up about 15 miles north of Longreef.

Clearances will vary, from track direct the field to fly victor 1 OCTA and report at botany bay heads 500 ft. Just follow the clearance it will be very straight forward.

Once close you go onto tower.

Tips. Photocopy the airport layout page of the ERSA / DAP to a larger size. Know what taxiways are northbound and which are southbound (or east/west bound). You will be parking in Domestic 5 so look at likely taxi routes and research them against the taxiing requirements in the ERSA.

You will most likely land on the northern runway (16L 34R) and take off on the southern runway.

Know when to change onto ground frequency. Eg, if you land on 34R, then you stay on tower until past the Sierra taxiway etc (could be fuzzie on details, been a while).

The security people are no longer able to let you through the gate (gate 9?) at domestic 5 so you have to go through the main gate. Its a bit of a walk. Not sure if the RFDS or execujet will let you through or not.

Be familiar with using a clearance delivery frequency for departure, the phraseology is different than a normal class c taxi/airways call.

Know what your plan is on departure.

Oh and have fun. Its a fairly easy airport to operate into and out of as long as you do your homework.
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Old 18th May 2010, 04:01
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Anyway, call the flow controller in the morning, number in the ERSA, get yourself a slot.
or you can email Airport Co-ordination Australia at [email protected] days ahead of the operation. You need to provide name and phone number of PIC, type & callsign, DEP AD, the slot time you want (landing time), DEP time, destination AD...

Not sure if the RFDS or execujet will let you through or not.
They won't, unless you strike a good samaritan. Note 1 in additional information section of ERSA stipulates that you must use an FBO (HAwkers or Universal) for escort and you must have an ASIC.

Be familiar with using a clearance delivery frequency for departure, the phraseology is different than a normal class c taxi/airways call.
"ABC for Canberra, request clearance" is what you say initially on ACD (callsign Sydney Clearance Delivery). Getting the clearance before engine start is a good idea, ACD will tell you of any delays and give you a start/call back time. Start clearance will be notified by ATIS if in operation, otherwise start clearance is not required.

You need to state Domestic 5 (or wherever parked) when reading back clearance on ACD. (note 1 in local traffic regulations)

If youre taking off from bankstown and going direct to sydney, you have to ring the tower before engine start. Otherwise, just call inbound in the usual class C manner. There are 2 frequencies, one for within 45nm and one beyond from memory. I usually just rang up about 15 miles north of Longreef.
Nothing in ERSA about ringing BK tower, you're supposed to ring Flow Director one hour before operating (note 6.10 in ERSA). I have found this to be a complete waste of time, however, and the flow guy usually has some difficulty figuring out why you called.

Inbound, call SY Terminal 135.1 for allocation of control frequency, within 45 NM.

Report the assigned runway in sight when changed to director as early as possible (assuming you actually have the runway sighted).

Note the traffic holding fuel advisory in ERSA is replaced by NOTAM, you might find 30 mins holding is required even in good weather.

Ask for help if unsure of which way to go when taxying, the taxiway signs can be confusing if you're not used to them. A common taxi route to 16L from domestic 5 is via G, C, cross RWY 25, to holding point B10. Usually they will tell you to call tower on B10 and there is a sign there as well.

From landing 16L to Dom 5, you can expect T, L, B, enter RWY 25 to the right, exit at G4.

Taxiway B is normally Northbound and C is normally Southbound.
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Old 18th May 2010, 04:12
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scavenger, read your amendments/Jepps.
I still constantly hear that incorrect call and the biggest offenders are JQ and VB, its now "Sydney Delivery"
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Old 18th May 2010, 04:27
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you are right of course, i copied that from ERSA without thinking...
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Old 18th May 2010, 04:29
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I started a thread on this very subject last year, and all of my questions were answered.

Unfortunately the meeting that was taking me and the FTDK into Sydney was cancelled, so it didn't happen in the end.

Would seem like not a big deal if you are capable of playing in the same sandpit as the big boys - but check out landing and parking fees. They were pretty steep but I have heard that they have now been increased to totally unviable levels for GA.

The FTDK and I are into Brisbane Int on Friday. Still GA friendly and not unreasonable with landing and parking fees when you factor in the convenience.

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Old 18th May 2010, 05:13
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Nothing in ERSA about ringing BK tower, you're supposed to ring Flow Director one hour before operating (note 6.10 in ERSA). I have found this to be a complete waste of time, however, and the flow guy usually has some difficulty figuring out why you called.
Really? Maybe you should learn how to read an ERSA then.

7.2.2 ACFT DEP BK for LDG or practice ILS at SY should contact BK Ground prior to start to ascertain any expected DLA.
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