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Old 5th Apr 2010, 08:25
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I hear through the grape vine that the prang were caused by the thermo-plating letting go in the degauzer control. As we all know, its a fairly common problem with them Victa's.
It may have been the hydrochloric fossillizer
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 10:09
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triadic, this was the same aircraft but the previous incident where the aircraft was landed on a beach was not engine related. The one yesterday was.
Sorry Lovett, but triadic is correct (unless there were 2 beach landings recently?). The landing on the beach was another aircraft, ie: not MTC. That beach landing was related to a health issue of the pilot who sadly died after making the successful landing.

In order to be correct, the aircraft type is an "Airtourer" whilst Victa was the manufacturer of the 168 built in Oz and AESL was the manufacturer of the 79 built in NZ. Not incorrect, but a bit like calling all Cherokee's a Piper!

The late Dr Henry Millicer who designed the aircraft, once presented a paper called "Design for survival" in which he highlighted a number of design features in the Airtourer which would increase the chance of survival in a survivable accident. Over the years, he has been proved to be correct. Again this sad accident seems to prove that area of Henry's design.

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Confirm Spirax Post. I was privileged to shake Dr. Millicers hand over discussions of what might have been.
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 10:34
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This was the same aircraft involved with the incident a few months back.
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spirax, triadic and you are NOT correct. It is the SAME aircraft.

I am a member of the aero club where MTC was on-line; I was at the aero club when it was reported overdue following what turned out to be a heart-attack by the pilot; and I was at the aero club when the wreckage was brought back to the club following the forced landing on the Brooker highway.

Following the landing on the beach the aircraft was fully checked over by a LAME and found that there was nothing wrong with the engine. The filters and wheel bearings were changed due to the fact it had been on a beach for some time and the aircraft was returned to line, until yesterday.

In recent years the aero club has only had one Victa on-line, namely VH-MTC. It was the aircraft involved in both incidents.
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 10:56
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ACST - Aero Club of Southern Tasmania

Same Aircraft.
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In order to be correct, the aircraft type is an "Airtourer" whilst Victa was the manufacturer of the 168 built in Oz and AESL was the manufacturer of the 79 built in NZ. Not incorrect, but a bit like calling all Cherokee's a Piper!
Except of course other than the "AirCruiser", I think it was which never made it into production, the Airtourer was the only aircraft produced by them, so it is acceptable to call it a Victa.

Unless you're likely to confuse it with the lawnmowers they made.
The 100Hp version certainly doubled as one if you got behind the power curve with a load of flap out.
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Old 5th Apr 2010, 12:41
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I flew MTC quite a bit out at Hoxton park more than 20 years ago, and instantly fell in love with her. What a lovely change to the imported American 2 seaters. I couldn't believe the ineptitude of the Australian Government in letting such a great piece of kit slip through their (and ultimately our), fingers!

Once I had to force land her due to a broken valve. Anything more than idle power produced a wicked vibration, so we weren't going far in that condition. Fortunately it happened not far from the curcuit, and no bent metal that time. Some of you guys are a little un-kind. She didn't glide that badly.

She had a 150hp 0320 (spot on PLovett) which IMHO still made her a little underpowered, but was certainly a vast improvement on the 100/115hp models. Sad to see her all banged up, but I have to agree with spirax on the soundness of Dr Millicer's design. Damn shame about the prang though, as the old girl scrubed up all right in her current paint scheme. When I flew her she was a little more drab!
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 06:27
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Except of course other than the "AirCruiser", I think it was which never made it into production, the Airtourer was the only aircraft produced by them
The one and only Aircruiser built is still flying out of Bega. Plans were afoot to put it, and the Airtourer, into production in the late 90's here in Sale. Factory built, but the venture ran into the usual money problems and went belly up.

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Old 6th Apr 2010, 06:36
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Airtourer !

Except of course other than the "AirCruiser", I think it was which never made it into production, the Airtourer was the only aircraft produced by them, so it is acceptable to call it a Victa.
Except if you are an Airtourer person; then it is not a 'Victa'.

You don't call those made in NZ an "AESL" do you??

The aircraft is an Airtourer and should be so called I believe, as is the Aircruiser (even if there is only one)
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The aircraft is an Airtourer and should be so called I believe,
Of course the Poms refer to theirs as Glos-Airtourers
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 07:01
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You can certainly see who was the CT4's daddy.
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 07:26
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Did anybody see the blistered paint on one of the rocker covers?
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 12:17
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Interesting to hear the claim the a/c flew under an overpass before landing on the highway. I hope he did not get a 'ticket' from the attending Police.

I also understand a Hobart Instructor was jailed last week for 6 months fully suspended on the condition he be of good behaviour for 3 years. The Instructor wrote off a C172 after take-off at Bruny Island. Apparently the a/c plunged into the water from approx. 20 feet.
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 12:43
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The aircraft is an Airtourer and should be so called I believe, as is the Aircruiser (even if there is only one)
OK, you've got me ....Airtourer it is.

Brian

The Aircruiser always looked like it should have been a goer. Shame it never got the recognition it deserved.
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 15:59
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B772,

The aircraft did fly under the overpass before touching down on the highway. The pilot had committed to landing on the highway when he noticed the overpass. There was insufficient airspeed to climb over the overpass and light poles so he elected to go under. When you see the overpass in question there must have been very little room but the only thing he hit was a reflector pole on the centre divide between the carriageways.

In reference to the court case you mention, the man was never an instructor but a former commercial pilot. The crash site was at Cloudy Bay at the southern end of Bruny Island and was in 2003.
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 21:20
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The Aircruiser always looked like it should have been a goer. Shame it never got the recognition it deserved.
Imagine the rate of climb with 4 up on a hot day - it'd only be the curvature of the Earth that would make it go up, wouldn't it?
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Old 6th Apr 2010, 22:09
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Did anybody see the blistered paint on one of the rocker covers
On the TV newsclip I noticed that one of the covers looked 'odd', but I didn't notice if the cover was also heat-discoloured.
It could also be a quirk of the lighting and camera angle.
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Old 7th Apr 2010, 00:55
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Imagine the rate of climb with 4 up on a hot day
A grossed out CT4 weighed 130 pounds more than the Aircruiser, and had the same wing area and horsepower, so figure as ZEEBEE hints, it would have made for a nice little aircraft. Particularly bouncing around in the inland summer thermals the higher than normal wing loading would have been an attraction. Only ever flew the 100HP model, and out of farmers paddocks in the blistering summer heat, no problems and enjoyed every minute of a truly capable aircraft - a notch or two above a C150 IMHO.
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Old 7th Apr 2010, 00:58
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Pilot brought back to earth

Pilot brought back to earth Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania
Mr Wells said Mr Humphries would most likely be reprimanded if investigators found that a fuel shortage led to his problems.
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