Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
Reload this Page >

Not another Norfolk Island Thread!

Wikiposts
Search
The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions The place for students, instructors and charter guys in Oz, NZ and the rest of Oceania.

Not another Norfolk Island Thread!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 26th Feb 2010, 09:50
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Age: 74
Posts: 1,384
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Dont like REX, leave, isnt that the usual responce?
Arnold E is offline  
Old 26th Feb 2010, 10:28
  #22 (permalink)  

Bottums Up
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: dunnunda
Age: 66
Posts: 3,440
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by truth boy
But once hydraulic lines are cut the gear would most likely start to fall straight away
I'm not familiar with the Westwind apart from being able to recognise one.

If the above statement is correct, wouldn't this mean that a hydraulic failure in flight would see the gear extend, which could be quite undesirable at altitude, or, a long way from a suitable aerodrome?
Capt Claret is offline  
Old 26th Feb 2010, 12:32
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Daghdaghistan
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes It Does Capt Claret.. hence the term "wet footprint"...

But only if the lines fail after the one way restriction valve between the gear and the hydraulic pumps.

You can lose hydraulic pressure from the pumps in the WW and still have the gear stay in the up and locked position. I know because I've had a complete hydraulic failure in a WW, oceanic and still had the gear stay up. And theres that valve in the hydraulics diagram..

What I can't remember was if the hydraulic lines on the WW go after the valve, and if the gear does come down, does the nosewheel doors open and the nosewheel fall down into the down and locked position. There was a N2 blowdown bottle for manual gear extension...

If the nosewheel doors on the WW were open on the one sitting on the bottom at Norfolk, I suspect it will give you a pretty good indication if the gear was selected down at the time of impact, or I suppose you could just take a dive and look at the gear handle....

After looking at the video, I do also noticed that the downlocks (the diagonal strut to the main gear strut) on the main gear look fully locked in the down position.... Normally it was a check on a preflight when on the ground to ensure that the strut was straight and the red markings matched up to form a straight line, to indicated the downlocks where in the down and locked position....
Cypher is offline  
Old 26th Feb 2010, 21:34
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: S.H.
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Capt Claret and Cypher - good posts!

Cypher:

If the nosewheel doors on the WW were open on the one sitting on the bottom at Norfolk, I suspect it will give you a pretty good indication if the gear was selected down at the time of impact
Video at about the 45 second mark seems to show that the NLG doors are open.
chainsaw is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.