Virgin Cruise FO: Accepting Interest...

[rog747]

thanks for the reply DShiner

rog

[George_of_the_Bungle]

It seems a Voz CFO will have another progression option to that of a VB FO, some have been looking into the ever-expanding Qatar airways who already have 14 777's and one new addition every month until another 29 (including freighters) are delivered. Unlike Etihad and Emirates these guys only require 500 hrs on the aircraft type....would be interesting to see the pay scales for living and working in Doha with this mob.

[porch monkey]

Weren't F/O only type ratings given the arse a little while back?

[slice]

Dreamshiner - The way Virgin Atlantic treat their crew compared to their antipodean cousin company is like comparing night and day. The V Aus longhaul pay & conditions are measurably worse than the Virgin Blue. V Aus generally is a nasty deal, and I suspect turnover could start accelerate as crew get their 777 hours and depart for better deals.

[Dreamshiner]

I must admit that was an eye opener, especially as the Virgin group of companies generally has a fun/aspirational ethos attached to them (well in my perception of the brand anyway).

If VAus do follow this plan then as I pointed out, they'll reap what they sow. As you say slice, when the market is more buoyant globally then a mass exodus could very well happen (or overnight increase in terms and conditions). The bonding (and associated penalties for leaving early) they will offer applicants at present to secure employment may also help in their retention.

It's worth pointing out that from what I've been told a B777 TR would allow a B787 conversion on a rapid/abridged course as the methodology and systems are a natural progression from the 777. Some food for thought with so many on order for Australian airlines. (Granted Boeing need to get the finger out and get them built and delivered). Just gives anyone at VAus a few options in the years ahead.

[clinty83]

VB CRFO

Evening all

Here is a question. Suppose you worked internally in VB and held all the appropriate licenses for a CRFO minus the hrs, would you be given a chance or would they make you stand in line with all the other applicants??

Clinty83

[Red Jet]

Applicants are currently sought for 2x Command & 2 x Senior FO. The application web-site will remain open with status "Accepting Interest" after these positions are filled. Several CFO's are getting interviews with the mainline, and major hiring drive for VB in both fleets are imminent.
Good times ahead , enjoy and play nice.

[KRUSTY 34]

If you were sucessful in gaining employment on a 40 year old turbo-prop DUX, You would more likely be a High time F/O fying with a Low time Captain!

[em20]

Requirements for CZFO

Do you have to have an Australian visa to apply for this position? Will they help you with a work permit for Australia. Are there any expats out there that have been through this? Any information is greatly appreciated.

[KRUSTY 34]

Any movement from RHS to LHS on the 777 in that little lot Red Jet?

[Red Jet]

Any movement from RHS to LHS on the 777 in that little lot Red Jet?

We can only hope! Will keep you posted.....

[Dreamshiner]

Great Pretender, 9 years of membership and that is your first post?

Pissed myself laughing, very Mr Miyagi. Very profound.

[inandout]

VB have pay levels for FOs can some tell me what the criteria is for each level. Also what are their bases. Thanks

[Abul Qais]

cruise relief F/O's for VAus

Hey guys,
Just been offered an interview date with VAus for a Cruise F/O.Wondering if anyone with info on the interview prcoess with Vaus for CRFO??

Any info will be much appreciated ,
Safe Landings

[DUXNUTZ]

When's your interview?

[Goat Whisperer]

em20

without already holding the right to live and work in Australia you wouldn't be eligible for the VA job. Companies can only assist with visas when they're employing people whose skills are not available in Aust/NZ. That might work for a 787 test pilot but not a Second Officer position.

clinty83

you'd be unlikely to get a look in without the hours. If you did have the hours, your record working within the company is likely to be looked on favourably.

Krusty34

the various window seats at VA have been promised many times over to different pilot bodies. IF VA are to honour their deed with Virgin Blue's pilots (and while they retain their current MFO I reckon they will) practically all of the commands for aircraft 5 to 7 will be existing VB commands. PB pilots have also been given a look in and existing VA drivers are keen to shuffle seats. I would expect a lot of VA promotion to come via 737 and EJet window seats, especially for Second Officers with little or no jet flying (window seat) experience.

[KRUSTY 34]

So no command upgrades for existing VA SFO's GW?

Ouch!

[Red Jet]

Not to worry, the upgrades will come eventually. We all knew about the deed between the AFAP and VB to cover 4/7th of commands for the first 7 aircraft, before we decided to join as SFO's. Currently 18 Command slots left to fill under that deed, so upgrades will really only get underway for aircraft 7. There will only be a few internal upgrade slots for aircraft 5 & 6 and the advertised 2 are part of that. All indications are that the 2 Commands will be internal promotions. I believe we currently get on average 1 CV EVERY DAY, from 777-experienced Captains, mainly from the sandpit and Fragrant Harbour, but believe the train has now well and truly left the station for DEC's from outside the VB-group.

[Goat Whisperer]

Indeed, after aircraft 7 all existing bets are off.

[hardNfast]

If Cruise First Officers have a "limited" chance of progression in VA, does that mean that VA's First Officers usually transfer from a Virgin Blue FO position?