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Hey there
Im at the moment trying to decide which way to go with my training. Im currently considering doing my training towards my CPL with a GA based school. I dont have an issue with the school or GA in general, though I have been told that RAA is a cheaper option i.e. obtain my RAA pilot certificate and then convert to CPL via PPL, apparantly this can make it a fair bit cheaper and on the positive side if I want to "just go for a zip" I can do so.
So what do you think people?
Linda
Im at the moment trying to decide which way to go with my training. Im currently considering doing my training towards my CPL with a GA based school. I dont have an issue with the school or GA in general, though I have been told that RAA is a cheaper option i.e. obtain my RAA pilot certificate and then convert to CPL via PPL, apparantly this can make it a fair bit cheaper and on the positive side if I want to "just go for a zip" I can do so.
So what do you think people?
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I spent a few hours doing the maths on this for a friend; Long story short you will save $1000 approx and end up with less GA time. For PPL's I think its a fantastic cheaper option to cut your teeth and make a choice later but for CPL's it just doesn't add up.
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Thanks
I had sort of figured that may have been the case, but thanks for affirming my thoughts.
As Im only just starting out Im actually unsure if I will go through to CPL at the moment its just a plan to go that far, Im a photographer already with an Arts Degree so Im hoping that I can do both my photography work at the same time as my flying training and who knows one day maybe fly around the country doing superstars weddings!!!
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I had sort of figured that may have been the case, but thanks for affirming my thoughts.
As Im only just starting out Im actually unsure if I will go through to CPL at the moment its just a plan to go that far, Im a photographer already with an Arts Degree so Im hoping that I can do both my photography work at the same time as my flying training and who knows one day maybe fly around the country doing superstars weddings!!!
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I'd forget RAAus, they seem like a bunch of monkeys with nothing but a piece plastic for a license. Actually it's not even a license, it's only a "certification".
To put it seriously, RAAus = lack of knowledge & bad habits. It's not just the pilots and instructors either, it's the machinery and maintenance. It's piss poor to put it bluntly thats why their aircraft are regularly falling out of the sky.
But hey that's just my opinion, and we all know what opinions are like.....
To put it seriously, RAAus = lack of knowledge & bad habits. It's not just the pilots and instructors either, it's the machinery and maintenance. It's piss poor to put it bluntly thats why their aircraft are regularly falling out of the sky.
But hey that's just my opinion, and we all know what opinions are like.....
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Looks like Ive accidently opened a can of worms!
Well Im probaly going to the fly in at Temora so hopefully ill get to speak to a few people there.
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Well Im probaly going to the fly in at Temora so hopefully ill get to speak to a few people there.
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Just be wary of the aircraft if you go for a fly....oh and the guys flying them.
I've never had any good experiences with them, had issues ranging from lack of radio calls, general procedures, circuit procedures, general airmanship etc.
But hey, you can't win 'em all.
I've never had any good experiences with them, had issues ranging from lack of radio calls, general procedures, circuit procedures, general airmanship etc.
But hey, you can't win 'em all.
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That sounds like a bloody good idea! A lot of these back yard RAA instructors should take a leaf out of their book!
Having said that, the air show should be good, some very interesting aircraft there for sure.
Having said that, the air show should be good, some very interesting aircraft there for sure.
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Well I did ask that of a school locally here but they said the hours count one for one but they do both GA and RAA so maybe thats the difference, as another school said we count 1 RAA hour as 0.5 GA hours.
Is anyone from here flying to the flyin? Id love to meet up if you are.
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Is anyone from here flying to the flyin? Id love to meet up if you are.
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I hear of a certain flying school that makes people with RAA certification still do the whole CASA PPL Syllabus.... Or maybe that's just another rumour...
Yep and its right on our doorstep too...........
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I dont know if you could call it harder but a Jabiru is certainly a handful in marginal conditions. Very rarely would you go from full left to full right deflection in a warrior... every day ocourance in a Jabiru. Hard eh; scary... defintely!
More to do with being extremely unstable in wind because of their weight. I dont know how anyone navs in them, they're so cramped and you feel every bump. They'd be a total nightmare in summer!
More to do with being extremely unstable in wind because of their weight. I dont know how anyone navs in them, they're so cramped and you feel every bump. They'd be a total nightmare in summer!
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Ahh, the RAA vs GA argument!
Where are all the usual suspects? I'm running out of chips and beer!!
Linda, it actually seems to do 99% with who the instructor is. I have had a RAA instructor with thousands of hours (and not just in the circuit) and a GA instructor that was, well, equally good.
The aircraft are definitely interesting - one could say RAA are closer to real flying - you do feel every bump and thermal and it does teach you respect mother nature.
Both RAA and GA fall out of the sky for (mostly) reasons of own stupidity. Darwin Awards applicable to both.
If I get let out of my cage I'll be at Temora, it's on the way to Corowa, how come gliders never get a mention?
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Where are all the usual suspects? I'm running out of chips and beer!!
Linda, it actually seems to do 99% with who the instructor is. I have had a RAA instructor with thousands of hours (and not just in the circuit) and a GA instructor that was, well, equally good.
The aircraft are definitely interesting - one could say RAA are closer to real flying - you do feel every bump and thermal and it does teach you respect mother nature.
Both RAA and GA fall out of the sky for (mostly) reasons of own stupidity. Darwin Awards applicable to both.
If I get let out of my cage I'll be at Temora, it's on the way to Corowa, how come gliders never get a mention?
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I know this is a thread drift but a guy I know has just got his ppl - do you know how long the paperwork takes to come through from CASA - he wants to take me flying and I cant wait!!
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Bugsmashergirl,
With reference to your last post, I can understand your enthusiasm in wanting to head to the sky with this fresh PPL'er, however, I would ask that you reconsider it carefully. Not knowing the person concerned once cannot judge the skills of this new pilot, but it has definite risk. Maybe a flight with a more seasoned pilot would provide you with a more informative flight, and your friend to fly solo and concentrate on what he has just been given the privilege to do?
Just a few thoughts from someone who has been there, done that and got the T-shirt...
Cheers,
Heavy
With reference to your last post, I can understand your enthusiasm in wanting to head to the sky with this fresh PPL'er, however, I would ask that you reconsider it carefully. Not knowing the person concerned once cannot judge the skills of this new pilot, but it has definite risk. Maybe a flight with a more seasoned pilot would provide you with a more informative flight, and your friend to fly solo and concentrate on what he has just been given the privilege to do?
Just a few thoughts from someone who has been there, done that and got the T-shirt...
Cheers,
Heavy
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74heavy,
Bit harsh considering you don't know the person. Would you have appreciated a stranger passing judgement on your skills when you were at that level?
Bugsmasher, unfortunately I have heard anything from 1 week to 6 weeks and longer. He should have a GFPT though, so there's always the training area$
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Bit harsh considering you don't know the person. Would you have appreciated a stranger passing judgement on your skills when you were at that level?
Bugsmasher, unfortunately I have heard anything from 1 week to 6 weeks and longer. He should have a GFPT though, so there's always the training area$
j3