PPL in short time around melbourne?

[maehhh]

Hey there,
hope you guys can help me.

I'm from Germany but holder of an Aussie PR.
I'm looking for a flight school around Melbourne to get my PPL. The main problem is, that it is quiet difficult for me to stay longer than 4 - 5 weeks in Oz. After that I've got to return to Germany because of university and other stuff. I'm visiting Oz at least 2 times a year.
Is there a (realistic) way to achieve the PPL in a few weeks with (intense) training every day? Is there a school you would recommend?

Getting the PPL in Germany is not an option because of missing Infrastructure, very high prices and awful weather conditions.

Thanks for your help!

PS: I searched a lot and found a lot of helpful but general Information. Unfortunately there was nothing really fitting into my case. That's why I opened this new post...

[HTFU]

If money is no object then
Try Pearson Aviation -- Main Terminal Building, Essendon Airport, Melbourne, Australia,
I needed to get some Quals done in a limited timeframe and they actually delivered, they're not the cheapest around but did get the job done in the limited timeframe that I had.

[nomorecatering]

Its .......possible......IF yo have your medical done and student licence already issued and cansit the PPL theory test on the first 3 days.

Getting your medical alone will take 3-5 weeks and you cant do any solo untill then. Thats not even thinking about the AVID or ASIC (security background check) which in your case as they have to get backgound checks done in germany too.

If everything is done before hand, then possibly you could get all the flying done in 5 weeks. Thats if EVERYthing, including weather goes in your favour.2 months just fr the flying would be more realistic.

Cheers nmc (grade 1 with 3000 hrs instructing time)

[172driver]

While this may not apply to you as holder of an Oz PR, CASA can only start the process of issuing the ASIC to foreign nationals once they have actually (legally) entered Australia. This means you'll get your ASIC after a week at very best, more like 10-15 days after your arrival.

[YPJT]

While this may not apply to you as holder of an Oz PR, CASA can only start the process of issuing the ASIC to foreign nationals once they have actually (legally) entered Australia.

And for that very reason, DO NOT apply for your ASIC through CASA.
The only check that has to be done upon arrival is the DIAC check and that can be done online by the issuing body.
Go to Aviation ID Australia for your ASIC. It is possible to have all the documentation completed and the ASIC prepared for prior to your arrival pending the final immigration check.

The best time I heard for somone getting a PPL done full time was about 4 - 5 weeks but that was before the current problems of ASICs and CASA bureaucracy.

[172driver]

Interesting, YPJT. I was not aware of this route (in fact found out about the whole ASIC business in correspondence with a - very helpful - chap from CASA). While everything was prepared prior to my arrival, they could only do the physical issuance of the card after my clearing immigration. That's where the snag was. No big deal in my case (didn't need it for the first couple of weeks in Oz), but might throw spanner in works for others.

Are you saying that Aviation ID Australia have the ASIC ready and waiting for you, to be handed over the moment you are in the country?

[YPJT]

Are you saying that Aviation ID Australia have the ASIC ready and waiting for you, to be handed over the moment you are in the country?
Yesterday 15:07

g'day 172driver,
Technically that is what could and should happen. I know first hand of at least one instance where this occurred. The DIAC check is a very quick and simple process. The issuing body just goes online, puts in your passport details and voilla, the visa info and restrictions are displayed. You normally have to wait 24 hours after arrival in country though for the details to be available on the system. That is all there really is to it.
ASICs killed off a lot of overseas business for many operators. look up Goana air safaris to see what I mean. It didn't have to be that way and personally I think it can still be turned around.
I'm happy that you received a good result going through CASA however they are constrained by their own bureaucracy and the fact that they receive a lot of ASIC applications. Not to mention the fact that they have been known to give overeseas visitors confusing information regarding the ASIC requirements. There are other options such as Aviation ID Australia. The good thing is, ASICs are their core business and THere is also another company based in WA offering ASICs but not sure if they will process for overseas applicants.

[AirSports]

Flying around Melbourne

Perhaps another alternative is to avoid the ASIC training airports for a short stay, fly all over Australia without the difficulty of getting tied up in red tape. See Learn to fly at Airsports Flying School, Melbourne, Australia - AirSports Flying School.

[172driver]

G'day YPJT,

Thanks for the info, will keep in mind for any potential extension / re-issue. As stated before, CASA were extremely helpful (definitely over and above the call of duty), but by their own admission, and as you say, hamstrung by their own procedures. BTW, the *really* confusing site re the ASIC is the government (some department, cannot find the site now) one.

Googled Goana Air Safaris - what a sad tale. Not quite sure what the value of an ASIC is in places like Winton or other far-flung airfields in central Oz. Guess the evil terrorist could simply decide to walk around the fence.....

Anyway, ta again for the info