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Old 1st Dec 2009, 02:16
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plan is to leave mid-Jan, just getting all my ducks in line with paperwork, ferry tank installation, insurance, etc..

can't wait
 
Old 1st Dec 2009, 09:19
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January weather VFR in the tropics isn't a nice place to be. Be prepared for some rather long diversions around lines of cells. The intensity of the ITZ varies from day to day, but that time of year is usually in a line east west just south of YPDN and streches across to Bali. Be prepared to carry a minimum of 60+ holding on any destination. I have held at Kupang for 90 mins waiting for the field to open to IFR landing minima. Weather information is hard to get, but Kupang and Bali have Met Offices. Bali is especially good in that respect.
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Old 1st Dec 2009, 11:04
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Screw that for a joke in anything, let alone an archer. The whole January in the tropics thing.

That being said, I wish you the best Planky, hope it works out for you.

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Old 1st Dec 2009, 12:28
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The Archer I built my hour on years ago was ferried from LAX to Honolulu then Hona to Pago Pago then Pago Pago direct to Ashburton South Island NZ.

The pilot had to climb over the ferry tank to get in and was just over 1000lb over gross on takeoff from LAX. It had autopilot but imagine sitiing for the 12 or 13 hrs over the sea between landings watching the oil pressure gauge waiting for a problem.
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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 11:34
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Without wanting to sound condescending I don't think many of you realise just how common place this ferrying of aircraft actually is. Many new aircraft are flown to Aus from the USA on a regular basis. All Cirrus's used to be flown out until the 04 model onwards was released (as the wing wasn't detachable before that) and Warriors, Archers and Cessna's all headed for flying schools near you. I liken it to ultralights flying to Tassie, a few weeks back no less then 6 went across in the one day, 2 stroke's and all, around 93 miles non-stop over water, very rarely do they konk out on those trips.
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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 13:36
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Two South Africans in an over weight LSA (100 HP Rotax powered "Sling") are on a round the world trip and recently made the LAX to Maui leg in 21 hours.

Welcome - The Airplane Factory, Johannesburg, South Africa
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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 20:05
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You'd expect that from South Africans, they probably feel safer doing that flight than walking down the street in their home towns.
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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 20:21
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Back in the days of Brent Aviation at YMMB, I was asked to move a C172 that had just flown in from the States and still had the ferry tank installed. I am about 180cm tall, and with the seat right back against the tank, knees prevented me getting any aileron control.

I understood that the leg from the States to Hawaii was about 25 hrs flying with an endurance of 27 hrs. Long time to sit in the one spot, keeping wide awake and hand flying!
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Old 3rd Dec 2009, 02:16
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Single engine overwater.

Is not such a big deal if the engine keeps going and they usually do. having enough fuel is a bit important as well.

Bass straight is not a heap different to blue water really, how well can you swim? if bass straight is 90 nm or so at the crossing point, then you only really need to be able to swin for half of that, say 45 nm, or stright to the nearest island if it is closer, easy. I can manage about 200 meteres on agood day

How would I feel as non PIC ferry pilot?

Planky, If I was going with any one in circumstances like yours, I would only go if I was the aknowledged PIC, the one making the decisions and doing the donkey work. couldn't care less about the hours, but I am the one in charge. you could be in charge of accomodation and hookers..... Hmmmmm come to think of it, no you can't.

The 'Captain' has to be completely across all aspects of the flight, airworthiness, fuelling, parking, airport fees etc, who to pay what, where to stay, what to eat, no room for mumbling. the guy with the four gold bars is supposed to be in charge.

If you mean that you would like to do most of the flying, that is no problem, you is the A/P, just don't fcuk up and make me look bad.

On second thoughts I have done this before and I prefer my own company on long trips.

Have fun, I am sure you will. I will pass your post to a friend who may be interested, but he charges waaay more than me, or did you mean - non PIC unpaid ferry pilot?

HD
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Old 3rd Dec 2009, 14:21
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the guy with the four gold bars is supposed to be in charge
and I can just see some numbnut somewhere in the world flying an archer into an aerodrome and stepping out in his cadet uniform with four bars on...
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Old 3rd Dec 2009, 21:18
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and I can just see some numbnut somewhere in the world flying an archer into an aerodrome and stepping out in his cadet uniform with four bars on
Exactly what you need to do when ferrying through some countries!
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The more braid the better!
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