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Old 28th Mar 2011, 07:29
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What about the Air NZ Academy? Word is there is an announcement due out soon with details. Any insider info out there?
Doubt this will happen until a GOP number is instigated for the Regional carriers.
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 08:01
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Found this last week. Air NZ School of Flight . Apparently April for announcement of Flight Training providers.
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 05:33
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First Officer Programme

5 training providers apparently

Time to start guessing who!!!

CTC? Canterbury Aero Club?
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 06:32
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CTC?

This appears to be in direct competition with CTC in training foreign cadets for foreign airlines. Nothing about training cadets for Air New Zealand.
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sorry to kinda hijack but

I have been told that with the new recruit to group that you are going to need UE to even get an interview? Is this true? If so i may have just wasted all the money spent on getting through all my training. I left school before sitting school c 16 years ago, have managed companies and now am sitting my C-Cat to have the CFI say the other day that with out UE you wont even get a look in when it comes to airline job. Can any one shed some light on this for me please..
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Old 3rd Jun 2011, 21:29
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CFIs an idiot..must be a million years old..theres some sort of NCEA level to get into Uni these days and before that there was Bursary. UE is something cavemen carved into rock. And don't stress about higher qualifications anyway..a NZ degree isn't even worth getting framed these days..take it into any firm and it will buy you a one way ticket to the mailroom
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Old 3rd Jun 2011, 21:42
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So with that in mind, i should just keep going and once get enough hours apply to an airline any way? Seems alot of people are jumping on the you wont even get an interview band wagon.
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Old 3rd Jun 2011, 23:56
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Haven't heard anything about the need for higher qualifications. They might help but not sure they're an absolute requirement.

So far as I know the "good bar***rd" check is still quite important though.
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Old 4th Jun 2011, 02:05
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They probably mean generic UE, ie whatever the modern NCEA requirement is to go to university. Seems to change depending what course you want to do... far easier back in my day, you either had UE or you didn't (and Bursary had nothing to do with UE, it was simply the financial boost the government gave you to go to university. Yes, they used to pay you to go... now we have student loans. Such is progress.)

Anyway, whatever they mean, it's stupid. CPL/ATPL exams should be an equivalent.

It's all part of the modern way of using HR departments to do what managers used to do. HR departments can only justify their existence by dreaming up more and more obstacles to employment. Once again... progress.
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Old 5th Jun 2011, 05:38
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CPL/ATPL exams should be an equivalent
Should be, it is at most other airlines...but not at ANZ.

DIG - In the same boat. They told to do a uni paper and that would fit their requirement. Oddly enough they didnt specify that it had to be anything aviation related. So I did a extramural paper at massey (and applied to cathay Pacific with my atpl). Just another $750 into the aviation hole. Didnt want to spend it but it wont shift the decimal point on what I have already thrown into that hole.
What really gets me is that CPL/ATPL subjects actually give you quite alot of credits toward a degree yet ANZ still want you to do a paper

I guess at the end of the day its their train set / sandpit / BBQ (call it what you want) so they can set the rules but its a big wide world out there full of employers who will take a more practical view of what is important and what is'nt.
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Old 5th Jun 2011, 06:39
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Yet another reason to bypass the parochial backwater that is NZ aviation... go find a real airline!
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Old 5th Jun 2011, 08:39
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Just tell them you did 2 1/2 years of an HR degree until you realised it was a complete and utter waste of time and money...

..you won't get the flying job but you might get invited onto the interviewing panel!
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Old 6th Jun 2011, 17:51
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I think it could be a lot worse to be fair. A minimum educational standard of UE is hardly a big ask. Unnecessary yes, but one doesn't need to be a Rhodes Scholar to reach that standard. Look at the U.S. for example, a 4 year degree is basically mandatory for the airlines there.

Doesn't Air Nelson require 6th form passes of grade 4 or better in 4 subjects including physics and maths?
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Old 6th Jun 2011, 23:06
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5 training providers apparently
The FAQ's page for the FO Programme has the following (slightly edited to keep the post tidy):

Who are the Air New Zealand Aviation Institute's Partner Flight Training Organisations?
AIR HAWKES BAY
INTERNATIONAL AVIATION ACADEMY OF NEW ZEALAND
MASSEY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF AVIATION
NELSON AVIATION COLLEGE
SOUTHERN WINGS
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 22:46
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Yeah it could be wrose FGC, but if some one left school over 16 years ago, and since then has studied and proved them selves in a both the aviation and non aviation area, there should be a little give and take, you spend 100k on getting what should be enough of a requirment and then you are told sorry go away you dropped out of school so your not good enough? some thing not right there.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 04:32
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Maybe your spelling and grammar are a clue... sorry, couldn't resist...
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 08:31
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Remoak, I agree i can not spell and can not put grammar in the correct places but since when did that mean you can not fly an aircraft. I know your only taking the p*** but i couldn't resist.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 09:15
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Fair comment, Oh well back to the drawing board it is.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 10:13
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I agree i can not spell and can not put grammar in the correct places but since when did that mean you can not fly an aircraft.
Absolutely.

The problem is that employers these days want to see evidence of an education and some ability in the "3 Rs". Just being a good handler isn't enough for any decent employer.

I remember, back in the '80s, British Airways required Direct Entry pilot candidates to write a five page essay on ways in which BA could improve it's business.

No such thing as too many qualifications in the airlines... well apart from the small ones, where an ability to bend the rules and turn a blind eye is more important...

And there's always Indo or PNG...
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 15:08
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DIG, I can just imagine the first question the interview panel will ask. 'So Dig, why did you leave school at 15 with no qualifications?'

It doesn't look too flash, and would definitely raise a few eyebrows. Got a good answer?

But if they only require one completed uni paper in lieu of UE to be eligible, as ZK-NSN mentioned, then it's not such a drama, and easily achievable.

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