Crosswind technique
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The one danger of this that comes to mind is that after the strip run when you start climbing out you have far less altitude than a normal takeoff which depending on the runway may leave you with few options if something goes wrong.
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what i normally teach varies with aircraft type (POH) but generally its point at it if coming towards you, point at it if overtakes you.
as for the approach, i teach treat every approach as if its a glide approach.
and what ever happened to Advanced Manoeuvre lessons?? flying at 2 ft isnt that hard with practice, and an hr or 2 spent with a student doing this will save many hrs practising circuits to master the flare and landing especially in trying conditions.
How many students at Bankstown go on to CPL and higher without ever practising Short fielders on Actual grass short fields?
it appears to me that things like strip runs, spins etc are rapidly disappearing from the curriculum (instructors repertoire of skills) in teaching people to "fly", and therefor anyone teaching such skills is quickly shot down by the other "professionals"
as for the approach, i teach treat every approach as if its a glide approach.
and what ever happened to Advanced Manoeuvre lessons?? flying at 2 ft isnt that hard with practice, and an hr or 2 spent with a student doing this will save many hrs practising circuits to master the flare and landing especially in trying conditions.
How many students at Bankstown go on to CPL and higher without ever practising Short fielders on Actual grass short fields?
it appears to me that things like strip runs, spins etc are rapidly disappearing from the curriculum (instructors repertoire of skills) in teaching people to "fly", and therefor anyone teaching such skills is quickly shot down by the other "professionals"
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What is described is basically a touch and go without the touch - not exactly rocket science. If you're going to have a 'bad reaction', or can't control the aircraft that close to the ground, it's perhaps time to hand in the wings, or at least seek some training.
I'm with ultralights on this - people are being instilled with such fear of anything that is even approaching the corners of the envelope, I suspect most really have no concept of where the edges really are. IMHO that's pretty dangerous in its self.
It's also described as a training exercise, which would tend to suggest an instructor is involved in the process, though not necessarily.
I'm with ultralights on this - people are being instilled with such fear of anything that is even approaching the corners of the envelope, I suspect most really have no concept of where the edges really are. IMHO that's pretty dangerous in its self.
It's also described as a training exercise, which would tend to suggest an instructor is involved in the process, though not necessarily.
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What's a strip run? Something like this...
'What is a "strip run"?'
VH-XXX, I went to the trouble of asking a suitably qualified professional the same question and the answer I was given is as follows:
'A "strip run" is the automatic response to a clearance for an aircraft of less than 7,500kg MTOW to land on runway 29 at Darwin international. The pilot flies the aircraft down the normal three degree glidepath to a position at which it is abeam the touchdown zone markers at approxaimtely three feet AGL, approximately Vref + 30 -70 kts depending on type, then levels off and flies the remainder of the distance to approximately taxiway Bravo at this altitude. The optional addendum 'vacate taxiway Victor' merely succeeds in lengthening said run to the point where it becomes a competition between successive aircraft to see who can touch down closest to taxiway V and still exit without backtracking. Locking the brakes, flatspotting tyres or causing your pax to spill their coffee is considered poor form and loses points. Performing this feat with nil flap in the larger aircraft, or with full flap in any of the trickier to land types like the C206 or Piper singles, is considered bravery and is awarded points accordingly. On days with a strong crosswind, extra points are awarded for soft landings and the gratutitous use of flap to increase crab angles to the point of becoming ludicrous.'
Answer your question?
(if you're not from Dar-whine I suggest you have a look at the airfield diagram. Anyone from here knows what I'm talking about)
VH-XXX, I went to the trouble of asking a suitably qualified professional the same question and the answer I was given is as follows:
'A "strip run" is the automatic response to a clearance for an aircraft of less than 7,500kg MTOW to land on runway 29 at Darwin international. The pilot flies the aircraft down the normal three degree glidepath to a position at which it is abeam the touchdown zone markers at approxaimtely three feet AGL, approximately Vref + 30 -70 kts depending on type, then levels off and flies the remainder of the distance to approximately taxiway Bravo at this altitude. The optional addendum 'vacate taxiway Victor' merely succeeds in lengthening said run to the point where it becomes a competition between successive aircraft to see who can touch down closest to taxiway V and still exit without backtracking. Locking the brakes, flatspotting tyres or causing your pax to spill their coffee is considered poor form and loses points. Performing this feat with nil flap in the larger aircraft, or with full flap in any of the trickier to land types like the C206 or Piper singles, is considered bravery and is awarded points accordingly. On days with a strong crosswind, extra points are awarded for soft landings and the gratutitous use of flap to increase crab angles to the point of becoming ludicrous.'
Answer your question?
(if you're not from Dar-whine I suggest you have a look at the airfield diagram. Anyone from here knows what I'm talking about)
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If your 2ft above and stall all you do is land.....provided your wheels are lined up alright....I learnt crosswind techniques in flapless taildraggers, side slipping in over obstructions at the ends of fields....and know that rudder pedals are not foot rests.....Let me try and dig out a viddeo... 
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it appears to me that things like strip runs, spins etc are rapidly disappearing from the curriculum (instructors repertoire of skills) in teaching people to "fly", and therefor anyone teaching such skills is quickly shot down by the other "professionals"
Could not agree more ultralights.
It is all very well to teach students to fly in balance all the time but once they have mastered this they should be taught how far out of balance the aircraft can fly. Sideslipping is a very handy tool and should be taught to students.
It is a shame that alot of students are being taught by the 'students' that graduated from the previous course.
Could not agree more ultralights.
It is all very well to teach students to fly in balance all the time but once they have mastered this they should be taught how far out of balance the aircraft can fly. Sideslipping is a very handy tool and should be taught to students.
It is a shame that alot of students are being taught by the 'students' that graduated from the previous course.
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It is a shame that alot of students are being taught by the 'students' that graduated from the previous course.
It is all very well to teach students to fly in balance all the time
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