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NoTrainingWheel 18th Nov 2009 07:21

Crosswind technique
 
There's an interesting video here covering crosswind techniques. Most of us could probably learn something from it :ok:

Ultralights 18th Nov 2009 08:28

stick into wind, or away from wind when taxiing in windy conditions, that is the question...:confused:

XX-ANY 18th Nov 2009 10:00

turn into a headwind, turn away from a tailwind :ok:

VH-XXX 18th Nov 2009 11:31

Ultralights you are a qualified instructor, what have you been telling your students???


Climb into the headwind, descend into the tailwind, except in a nosewheel when it would be neutral. Not quite so excited about his 1 radio call per circuit and what is a "strip run?"

FRQ Charlie Bravo 18th Nov 2009 11:41

Taxing? Climb towards, dive away.

Sor'id,

FRQ CB

AerocatS2A 18th Nov 2009 15:00

If it is actually windy enough to lift a wing then you will feel the effect of the wind and be able to apply appropriate control input as required. In other words, apply the input you think is correct, if it doesn't seem to be working, try the other way, if that makes things worse, turn into wind, get on the radio and get someone to walk your wing.

glekichi 18th Nov 2009 23:01

Intentionally keeping the controls crossed after takeoff?
I've never heard of this being taught as a technique before.

wishiwasupthere 18th Nov 2009 23:20

Whats the plastic fantastic that he's flying? Jeez, it looks flimsy. He gets the tail close to the ground on the flare during the last circuit!

VH-XXX 18th Nov 2009 23:22

It's an Aerokprat Foxbat.

Metal tubing, small amount of aluminium skins, fibreglass cowls, semi metal wing (depending on model), very lightweight with a low stall. No doubt a bumpy ride for your $100k+.

NoTrainingWheel 19th Nov 2009 04:22

what is a "strip run? Probably the most neglected skill:bored: Also known as a "hover taxi" Idea is to fly almost the length of the runway consistently at 2-3 feet above the runway without gaining / losing alititude at 10kt or so above stall while maintaining perfect directional control. Over the Airwaves describes it way better than I could. Find a nice long runway somewhere, make your normal descent, then just before touching down on the numbers, add enough power to keep the airplane flying just a couple feet above the entire length of the runway at the edge of stall speed. In fact, a properly working stall warning horn should be sounding throughout this exercise (see illustration below).

You will soon discover that this is a far more difficult exercise than you might imagine. Mastery of this procedure requires consummate pitch and power control. Remember, too, to keep the nose pointing directly down the runway (good use of rudder pedals is critical here.)
Look out the side window!
With the nose pitched up in this slow flight condition, it is impossible to see the runway while looking straight ahead in most airplanes. Therefore, do what our tail-dragger friends do. Learn to perform this hover taxi exercise by looking out the side window only. Judge your position over the runway and your altitude by reference to the passing runway edge.
Do it in a crosswind!
It's one thing to hover taxi in calm or slight headwinds. It's quite another to do it effectively with a crosswind component reaching the demonstrated crosswind capability of your airplane.
Therefore, find a day when gusty winds are blowing directly across the runway. Learn to "lean into the wind" (bank in the direction the winds are coming from), then use opposite rudder inputs to keep your airplane perfectly aligned with the runway centerline. Do this until you can perform the maneuver effortlessly.

40Deg STH 19th Nov 2009 04:48

Why teach such a stupid, unsafe, cowboy manourvre. So low? Why so low? Am I missing something here?
If you wish to do this type of flying, go do your AG rating and a suitably powered aircraft.
This will only bring ultralight flying a bad name.
Maybe I miss the importance of such a negligent act. If its a strip inspection, can be done from 100 ft min, is our eye getting that bad, that it must be done so low?
Ground anyone who does this!!!!:mad:

I just read the post again............:mad: Still cant believe what I'm seeing. A trip to the Oaks is due now!!!

D-J 19th Nov 2009 05:13


Why teach such a stupid, unsafe, cowboy manourvre. So low? Why so low? Am I missing something here?
If you wish to do this type of flying, go do your AG rating and a suitably powered aircraft.
This will only bring ultralight flying a bad name.
Maybe I miss the importance of such a negligent act. If its a strip inspection, can be done from 100 ft min, is our eye getting that bad, that it must be done so low?
Ground anyone who does this!!!!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/censored.gif

I just read the post again............http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/censored.gif Still cant believe what I'm seeing. A trip to the Oaks is due now!!!
Someone know's how to over react...... ever come in to land and flared a bit high then used the power arrest the rate of decent?... well you should be grounded cowboy :E

40Deg STH 19th Nov 2009 05:17

D-J

Just still a little unsure what your trying to say. Certainly correct over flare with power or simply full power and go around. I'm still not sure why such a high risk act is required. before you start, many years ago I used to be paid to fly low.

eocvictim 19th Nov 2009 05:23

All I saw was a lesson on how to overshoot and conduct an unstabilised approach.

40Deg STH 19th Nov 2009 05:26

Read post #10

eocvictim 19th Nov 2009 05:42

40deg south is right, this sort of low flying practice shouldn't be encouraged. I can just see some weekend worrior trying it and copping an engine failure. Not an issue when your wheels are on the deck.

SM227 19th Nov 2009 06:27

More like having a wing stall and end up in a heap after cartwheeling down the runway :bored:

I agree, stupid! :=

NoTrainingWheel 19th Nov 2009 06:43

Bob Miller who is fanatical (to say the least) about flight safety promotes the concept in Over the Airwaves (The Journal for the Proficient Pilot). It's worth reading:ok: If you stall 2 feet above the runwaysurely you will just end up landing?

eocvictim 19th Nov 2009 06:52

In theory. Who says you're able to hold it that well? What's to say the pilot wont have a bad reaction to it and either pull back, stall and cartwheel or nose over a plow in. Practice this sort of thing with an experienced instructor who is proficient with this type of training.

Howard Hughes 19th Nov 2009 07:12


Why teach such a stupid, unsafe, cowboy manourvre. So low? Why so low? Am I missing something here?
If you wish to do this type of flying, go do your AG rating and a suitably powered aircraft.
40 Deg Sth,

One is expected to demonstrate this during a flight test in the US! Hardly a cowboy manoeuvre...


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