'Cowboy' pilot flies to catch plane

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Unless you are very sure of your facts, and even then unless you have very deep pockets, I would be very careful of publicly connecting dots.

I am not particularly close to this but I can see nothing to connect the subject of this story to the family owned cattle company of the same name.

Dr

[Tee Emm]

where an elderly gent flew down from QLD to Albury but missed Albury and set his sights on Tullamarine once the cloud cleared thinking that it was Albury. He proceeded to join for a circuit after they hurriedly re-directed everything around him with no radio calls.

The story was pretty close - although the facts as as I recall them from 10-15 years ago, was thus: I met the old chap 2-3 days after his Cessna 172 was grounded by CASA at Tulla airport until he could find someone to return the aircraft back from Tulla to Swan Hill (?). He had originally planned Swan Hill to somewhere (I don't recall where, but I think it was to Wangaratta). He had learned to fly in WA and with a friend hired the 172 from Swan Hill.
They got lost due low cloud and poor vis after leaving Swan Hill and wandered in and out of low cloud trying to map read. At one point they became disorientated in IMC and came spiralling out of the cloud base with just enough room to get away with it. They had other close shaves during their cloud encounters.

They were down to 500 feet in and out of low cloud when his friend saw an electrified train line which meant they were very close to Melbourne suburbs. His mate knew that most railways in Vic were not electrified and said "Mate, we're in deep **** - because that's an electric train down there - not a diesel" . They were picked up on radar inside ML CTR near Bolinda I think, and ATC asked a 747 that had just departed if they could contact the Cessna which he did and told the Cessna which frequency to call ATC on.

ATC told the Cessna to do a 180 and virtually piss off from whence he came. The pilot replied to ATC no way were they going back into cloud as they had been upside down once and he didn't want to risk repeating the exercise. From what he told me, ML ATC asked him if he could see Melbourne airport and he replied that he said to them he could see something that looked like a long black runway.

Tulla ATC then told him to land (it was runway 16). He said when he landed he was dumbfounded to find all these cars with flashing lights surrounding his aircraft as he taxied clear. He didn't understand why all the bother.

A CASA FOI turned up soon after and grounded him. He was told to get a flying instructor from Essendon and undergo dual cross-country training and if and when the instructor was happy with him he could collect his 172 and go away It was a day or so after, that I met him at Greg Bell's aeroshop at Essendon airport and that's how I got his story. He told it to me in such a wonderfully laconic farmer's drawl that I wish now I could have recorded it. He would have made a million on the Oprah Winfrey TV show.

A day or so later, I saw him sitting slumped forlornly over a desk at an Essendon airport flying school undergoing navigation theory instruction from a tall and somewhat belligerent grade 3 instructor. The young instructor was getting really impatient with the old bloke who was trying to understand how to work out a wind on a whizz-wheel Jepps computer.

I gather he had already completed one navex to Avalon and back and not very successfully, either. This was the worst thing that could have happened - a junior inexperienced instructor with no tact and certainly no human factors skills getting stuck into a nervous old man who had already got out of his depth.

I suggested the instructor should back off with the shouting as the old bloke was frightened and further suggested to the old bloke he should forget navexes and hop on to an RPT flight asap and go back to Perth and get his navigation testing done back in his home aerodrome. Turned out the Swan Hill people had already got someone to fly to Tulla and rescue their Cessna, so he didn't need the nav training in order for him to fly the aircraft back to Swan Hill. Last I heard he hopped on an RPT next day and went home to Perth.

[Horatio Leafblower]

Sprocket Check... with an attitude like that you will have a long an successful career as an Ultralight pilot, or maybe an aircraft welder

[VH-XXX]

Thanks Tee Emm, that was a good story. Sounds very similar to mine

See everyone, these things DO happen!

[bushy]

These things do happen!

A long time ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and there were flight service units in Australia, I was flying a C185 on low level survey flights out of Glen Innes. One morning wewere en route to our survey area and heard the flight service unit at Coff's harbour repeatedly calling an aircraft and getting no reply. We did our five hours of surveying at 200 agl in radio silence, and when we were on the way home I heard and replied to an "any station" call from that aircraft and a woman's voice told me they were flying over a lake and were not sure where they were, or what to do next. So I diverted to a lake in the area and saw a Piper Lance. I flew alongside and told them to look out their right window, high and to the rear. (always wanted to do that. Just like in the movies) The operator a Coff's harbour FSU heard me and asked if I was talking to "that" aircraft. I replied that I was, and I was proceding to Inverell for fuel. The lady in the Lance immediately replied that she would follow me. At inverell we got fuel, and coffee and there were six nice young ladies in the Lance. Our friendly flight service officer at Coff's had arranged for a policeman to meet them at Inverell and interview the pilot. After that I talked to them and suggested that their plan to continue to Bankstown that day was not a good one and tomporrow would be a better time. They had come from Cairns, got mixed up amongst cloud and lost. They had landed on a bush striop and found no-one there. So after a while they had taken off again but were confused and were glad to see our 185.
Next morning I heard their radio transmissions as they left Inverell for Bankstown.
There's a lesson in this true story. An interesting psycological study. They seemed to know where they were, but did not know what to do next. I call it psycological exhaustion, and when that happens it's time for coffee and a rest.

[VH-XXX]

What is the lesson? Never send six girls to do a mans job?

[Pinky the pilot]

OK Bushy, Which one did you wind up getting hitched to?

[itsbrokenagain]

In the 90's there was a missionary guy from the Torres Straits that bought himself a C310B , flew it from brisbane to mareeba at night, ifr with no license, and he was a old guy, got caught, CASA prosecuted then he went and got himself a license!

[spirax]

This thread drift is somewhat interesting.....The turkey in CNS got off easy.

Way back in the late '60's not long after they put the new parallel runway in at MB (17R/35L), there was this chap that called inbound to MB, was given 17R and he never showed up and they lost contact with him.

Well he attracted the attention of the chaps in Essendon tower when he landed on the N/S taxiway there, right in front of the tower!! And that was before Tulla had fully opened.

Those were the days!!

[Frank Arouet]

recflyingdotdotdotetc;

unlicensed pilot who flew his unregistered ultralight aircraft

raaus should kick him out of the federationf for spoiling it for every one else

At great risk of educating you, RA-Aus is not a Federation, and I seriously doubt the words “unregistered and unlicensed” mean the offender was a member under their jurisdiction.

I thought you were someone masquerading as an idiot but, from this and your other posts well….

I humbly apologise for such presumption.

[Recflyingdotcomdotau]

would you not think frank that holding a raAus student pilot certificate would mean that one wouldl be under the jurestiction of the raAus? they dont take action any way they pass all offences to casa as thyy dont have the power to prosecute offenders other than take their certificate off them.

your not wrong, its is not a federation any more it is a dictatorship, oh oops i mean an incorporated entity.

remember australian ultralite federation became recreational aviation australia after all.

[sprocket check]

HB:

You may be right. I might be able to fly my ultralight in my backyard, maybe. Good for practising steep turns anyway.

If I do landings like my last one in real metal aeroplanes I will definitely get a welding machine. Any body can weld aeroplanes, no?

[Ultralights]

why is the RAAus involved or mentioned at all??

the pilot was UNlicenced. and the aircraft UNregistered. and from what i understand is, the aircraft was a Gazelle. which can be either RAAus or GA-VH- registered.

the ONLY reason RAAus is copping the flack is some reporter mentioned the word "Ultralight aircraft" in the story.

even if it was VH regoed im sure it still would have been reported as an Ultralight hence dragging the RAAus into it even when they have no jurisdiction over VH.

[VH-XXX]

It doesn't seem to matter these days what you do wrong or which rules that you break either RAAus or GA the punishment seems to just come from what the magistrate is thinking about at the time, there is rarely any logic in the decision on the face of it. Best off heading to court on a Friday arvo when he is thinking about his upcoming golf weekend. It would be interesting to find out if the $17k is a breakdown of CASA demerit points and their $110 values.

[Frank Arouet]

Did he have an ASIC?