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Old 16th Sep 2009, 11:44
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Cessna 404 info please!

Hi,

I am trying to get hold of Cessna 404 Titan opertaing notes, a copy of a flight manual or just general ground school type information about the aircraft. Anything at all really....

Did Flight Safety International ever produce training notes on the 404? Anyone know where I can get a copy?!

PM me or post. Thanks!
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Old 16th Sep 2009, 12:13
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BugSmasher, I've got a (complete) photocopied POH for a '77 model. PM me if if that's of any use.
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More Info Please!

Thanks Plowie, much appreciated!

Anyone else got anything to offer please?!
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C404 engines

Try going to the Teledyne-Continental website for some engine info.I think you'll find that the C404 uses a "GTSIO-520-M"

http://www.tcmlink.com/EngSpecSheetDocs/GTSIO520M.pdf
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Thanks mate. Lots of good educational info on the continental site.
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Flight Safety did produce a manual for the C404...
Not sure where you'd get one from though.
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Thanks mate. Lots of good educational info on the continental site.
Did they tell you why the engines were geared, by any chance?
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Did they tell you why the engines were geared, by any chance?
To slow the props down & make them work more efficiently.

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Yup, they had to spin the engine pretty quick to get the ponies out of them (375). Can't have a big prop going over 3300rpm!!
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Spinning them slower also makes them quieter. Also why the engines were spaced further out than most other 400 types, which unfortunately, also results in a greater yawing moment asymmetrically.
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404

By far the greatest cabin class piston twin to fly the skies!!!!!!

And that my friends is un-disputable
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Loved my time (3000H+) on the mighty Titan. Did several Flight Safety courses over the years and pretty sure I have their complete endorsement manual in a box somewhere. PM me with your contact details- and I'll ship it to you at cost (provided of course I can find the darned thing).
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Yes they're good payload carriers. But they don't displace my feelings for the handling of A65-8200 or 70 QueenAirs. 'Bird.
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Great aircraft but better mated to a PT6A then the old geared motor, extra 40 kts and can actually be fully loaded, and the fun you can have with it, just puts a smile on your face.
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Flight Safety Stuff

Hi BoeingBender,

Thanks for your offer, I have PM'ed you. Let me know how you go!
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Great aircraft but better mated to a PT6A then the old geared motor, extra 40 kts and can actually be fully loaded, and the fun you can have with it, just puts a smile on your face.
Then they put Garretts on it, called it a Conquest 2 and made the ultimate single pilot aeroplane, a real Kingair killer
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Here, here max weight in a c441 straight to FL310, was even better with the TPE331-10's, TAS of 300kts
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HAHA, yeah would be a awesome machine would love to get my hands on the C441 but after flying the Jetstream give me a PT6 any day.
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They also put PT6's on em and called them a conquest. much quieter than the screaming Garret version.
CASA became the Conquest killer. whack an Australian only AD on them and canned em all at 22500 hours. broke a few companies in the process.
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They also put PT6's on em and called them a conquest. much quieter than the screaming Garret version.
Maybe so, but it originally was called a Corsair until being renamed the Conquest 1. It's basically a 402 with the Conquest 2 being a 404.

The Garrett version ate it for Breakfast. They may make more noise, but they do it while they overtake the PT6 powered machine using less fuel
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