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BugSmasher80 16th Sep 2009 11:44

Cessna 404 info please!
 
Hi,

I am trying to get hold of Cessna 404 Titan opertaing notes, a copy of a flight manual or just general ground school type information about the aircraft. Anything at all really....

Did Flight Safety International ever produce training notes on the 404? Anyone know where I can get a copy?!

PM me or post. Thanks!

Plow King 16th Sep 2009 12:13

BugSmasher, I've got a (complete) photocopied POH for a '77 model. PM me if if that's of any use.

BugSmasher80 19th Sep 2009 22:54

More Info Please!
 
Thanks Plowie, much appreciated!

Anyone else got anything to offer please?!

TSIO540 19th Sep 2009 23:06

C404 engines
 
Try going to the Teledyne-Continental website for some engine info.I think you'll find that the C404 uses a "GTSIO-520-M" :ok:

http://www.tcmlink.com/EngSpecSheetDocs/GTSIO520M.pdf

BugSmasher80 20th Sep 2009 00:31

Thanks mate. Lots of good educational info on the continental site.

Ear Muffs 20th Sep 2009 07:46

Flight Safety did produce a manual for the C404...
Not sure where you'd get one from though.

FGD135 20th Sep 2009 11:41


Thanks mate. Lots of good educational info on the continental site.
Did they tell you why the engines were geared, by any chance?

Desert Flower 20th Sep 2009 12:00


Did they tell you why the engines were geared, by any chance?
To slow the props down & make them work more efficiently.

DF.

Chadzat 20th Sep 2009 12:02

Yup, they had to spin the engine pretty quick to get the ponies out of them (375). Can't have a big prop going over 3300rpm!!

MakeItHappenCaptain 20th Sep 2009 14:11

Spinning them slower also makes them quieter. Also why the engines were spaced further out than most other 400 types, which unfortunately, also results in a greater yawing moment asymmetrically.:ok:

campdoag 21st Sep 2009 11:16

404
 
By far the greatest cabin class piston twin to fly the skies!!!!!!

And that my friends is un-disputable:ok:

boeingbender 21st Sep 2009 11:50

Loved my time (3000H+) on the mighty Titan. Did several Flight Safety courses over the years and pretty sure I have their complete endorsement manual in a box somewhere. PM me with your contact details- and I'll ship it to you at cost (provided of course I can find the darned thing).

frigatebird 21st Sep 2009 21:58

Doag
Yes they're good payload carriers. But they don't displace my feelings for the handling of A65-8200 or 70 QueenAirs. 'Bird.

newcomer 21st Sep 2009 23:13

Great aircraft but better mated to a PT6A then the old geared motor, extra 40 kts and can actually be fully loaded, and the fun you can have with it, just puts a smile on your face.

BugSmasher80 23rd Sep 2009 08:46

Flight Safety Stuff
 
Hi BoeingBender,

Thanks for your offer, I have PM'ed you. Let me know how you go!

The Green Goblin 23rd Jan 2010 10:51


Great aircraft but better mated to a PT6A then the old geared motor, extra 40 kts and can actually be fully loaded, and the fun you can have with it, just puts a smile on your face.
Then they put Garretts on it, called it a Conquest 2 and made the ultimate single pilot aeroplane, a real Kingair killer :ok:

sleeve of wizard 23rd Jan 2010 13:09

Here, here max weight in a c441 straight to FL310, was even better with the TPE331-10's, TAS of 300kts

newcomer 23rd Jan 2010 21:14

HAHA, yeah would be a awesome machine would love to get my hands on the C441 but after flying the Jetstream give me a PT6 any day.

the wizard of auz 25th Jan 2010 04:25

They also put PT6's on em and called them a conquest. much quieter than the screaming Garret version. :E
CASA became the Conquest killer. whack an Australian only AD on them and canned em all at 22500 hours. broke a few companies in the process.:rolleyes:

The Green Goblin 25th Jan 2010 05:58


They also put PT6's on em and called them a conquest. much quieter than the screaming Garret version.
Maybe so, but it originally was called a Corsair until being renamed the Conquest 1. It's basically a 402 with the Conquest 2 being a 404.

The Garrett version ate it for Breakfast. They may make more noise, but they do it while they overtake the PT6 powered machine using less fuel :}


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