what happend at BK?
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Bloody expensive broom
Two props, two bulk strips, not to mention the nose gear.
Bloody expensive.
Not the pilots fault 3 greens on final nose collapsed on landing.
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Bloody expensive.
Not the pilots fault 3 greens on final nose collapsed on landing.
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today turned into a quite interesting day, first off, 10 am, only aircraft in the circuit for an entire 40 mins!! on a sunday, CAVOK VRb wind day. in my 19 yrs flying at bankstown, only at night have i been alone in the circuit. but today at 10 am! where did everyone go?
then after lunch,
while taxing for YBTH, aircraft reported inbound with Low fuel?
2 mins later, chopper reported inbound, again, Low fuel
both made it down safely.
just as i was taxiing to the carpark (airplane park?) at the 29R holding point, a nice white seminole made a perfect approach and landing on 29L.. all 3 down. i watched as after touchdown,the nosewheel slowly folded back into the nose, followed shortly by dust and concrete debris and a very rapid stop with the nose on the deck and some not so straight looking props.
all ok.
then the usual hilarity ensued, aircraft not observing the instruction to ALL STATIONS STOP TAXIING IMMEDIATELY. from the usual suspects.
all in all, and unusually interesting day.
then after lunch,
while taxing for YBTH, aircraft reported inbound with Low fuel?
2 mins later, chopper reported inbound, again, Low fuel
both made it down safely. just as i was taxiing to the carpark (airplane park?) at the 29R holding point, a nice white seminole made a perfect approach and landing on 29L.. all 3 down. i watched as after touchdown,the nosewheel slowly folded back into the nose, followed shortly by dust and concrete debris and a very rapid stop with the nose on the deck and some not so straight looking props.
all ok.
then the usual hilarity ensued, aircraft not observing the instruction to ALL STATIONS STOP TAXIING IMMEDIATELY. from the usual suspects.
all in all, and unusually interesting day.
Two props, two bulk strips, not to mention the nose gear.
Bloody expensive.
Not the pilots fault 3 greens on final nose collapsed on landing.
Bloody expensive.
Not the pilots fault 3 greens on final nose collapsed on landing.
Many years ago there was a very nice Seneca II I'd flown on occasion parked at YPAD with 2 nicely bent props.
As you say, two props, two bulk strips.
It was still showing three greens as well, so not the pilots fault you'd think.
Then you notice the centre windshield frame dislodged from it's normal position by about two inches and the broken windshield.
Damn military pilots!
Where is VH-STN nowadays, anyone know?
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Low fuel
aircraft reported inbound with Low fuel
2 mins later, chopper reported inbound, again, Low fuel both made it down safely
2 mins later, chopper reported inbound, again, Low fuel both made it down safely
Not sure I'd want to be filling in the ATSB and CASA paperwork every time I re-joined the circuit 
Grandpa Aerotart
If you were arriving at YSBK and were going to land with reserves intact - but not a lot more (perfectly legal) - you might wish the tower to know you cannot comply with the utterly moronic 'hold outside zone' instructions that might/would follow there being already 6 aircraft airborne in the zone - not unusual on a sunny sunday. Still rather than declare a 'fuel emergency' as a first option I might wait and see what the zone loading was like first.
Yet one more indication of a lack of joined up thinking occurring at C&%t$ Against Sensible Aviation re GAAP/Class D procedures.
Edited in deference to etrust
Yet one more indication of a lack of joined up thinking occurring at C&%t$ Against Sensible Aviation re GAAP/Class D procedures.
Edited in deference to etrust
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With the new ruling with regards to requiring a clearance to cross a non-active runway by day (at GAAPs), the statistics for runway incursions went through the roof for the month of July!
- more words added to get past the minimum word requirement
With the new ruling with regards to requiring a clearance to cross a non-active runway by day (at GAAPs), the statistics for runway incursions went through the roof for the month of July!
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Maybe if people actually listened
... or if the hold points for inactive runways had lights at night, so we could see them
... or if any controllers, pilots or operators had actually been listened to before this stuff was implemented
If runway incursion numbers went up, and all of those were on runways which were inactive at the time, there is no safety case.
Two runway closures in two days at Bankstown - Nothing to do with inbound reporting points, or the number of aircraft in the circuit, or tower being staffed during all daylight hours. So nothing that's come from CASA in the last few weeks would have changed those accidents.
In spite of that, it's clear that CASA are working on a complete solution - If they make it sufficiently difficult to get airborne there will be no flying, and therefore no flying accidents.