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Old 16th May 2012, 01:19
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Hopefully it has woken up some people about just how easy it is to jam GPS or any satellite based navigation system.
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Roll on L5 for mid 2013!
EDIT to add L5 pseudolites transmitting from existing DME and wizzbang Chip Scale Atomic Clocks and who needs LAAS for CatIII.

Reading up on this. Appears to effectively cancel out cheapo GPS jammer interference.

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Interesting to see how it pans out. The GPS squatters do not own the bandwith... more legals ah suspect..





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North Korea reminds us that terrorists/terrorist states will use one of the key tools at their disposal to attack the free peoples of this world... the tool is GPS...

"... it appears that North Korea, determined to drive U.S. forces off the Korean Peninsula, may have successfully jabbed at this Achilles’ Heel...

...North Korea’s jammers have so far proved merely aggravating to U.S. and South Korean forces. Scrambling GPS signals won’t cause planes to drop from the sky. Planes can still establish their position with radar..."

...“It’s a wake-up call,” said David Last, a British GPS specialist and University of Wales professor emeritus who has consulted with South Korean officials...


Other possibilities...

...Cheap, effective and sold on the Internet, GPS jammers are ideal for tech geek terrorism. Experts warn that a few dozen jammers, strapped to remote control planes and launched over a major city, could sow plenty of panic: disrupting ATM withdrawals, air traffic controllers, ambulance routes and..."

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You really need to study some more, Binghi. Give you a hint...background radiation

EDIT- Tell me, surely you do not believe anything that comes out of North Korea? That would say so much about your character, Binghi. Although I refrain from personal jibes on this thread...you really are desparate if you believe this type of propaganda all the time.

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Old 23rd May 2012, 07:01
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EDIT to add L5 pseudolites transmitting from existing DME and wizzbang Chip Scale Atomic Clocks and who needs LAAS for CatIII.
I guess the EDIT was to confuse me. It worked, but it's still bollocks
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Interesting read-
FAILURE DETECTION OF A PSEUDOLITE-BASED REFERENCE
SYSTEM USING RESIDUAL MONITORING


millimetre accuracy and rather topical, Binghi.
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OZBUSDRIVER;
You really need to study some more, Binghi. Give you a hint...background radiation...
Nah, i'm still in the dark - yer need to "illuminate" some more there..



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Tell me, surely you do not believe anything that comes out of North Korea? That would say so much about your character, Binghi. Although I refrain from personal jibes on this thread...you really are desparate if you believe this type of propaganda all the time.
North Korea's futile attempts at disrupting GPS are fairly well documented - ah suggests a google search will tell yer more.

Be mindfull of what these attacks are telling us. North Korea has limited ways to strike out - GPS is a tool that it can use either through jamming attempts or as a guidence tool for bombed up UAVs... much the same as other terrorist groups.


OZBUSDRIVER;
rather topical...
Lets start with a google of "pseudolites" and "UAV" and see what we get..








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GPS is a tool that it can use either through jamming attempts or as a guidence tool for bombed up UAVs
Just not at the same time!

You can overpower GPS signals in a limited area quite easily. As those frequencies are easy to triangulate, it would also be very temporary.

My money is on those HARM-type missiles being able to lock on to the GPS frequency quite well also.

Still, all eggs in one basket is not a great idea and it would be nice to be as smart as the UK and invest in a good eLoran system which thanks to its low frequencies is virtually un-jammable. It won't give you precision approaches or targeting, but it will get you where you need to go...
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Something for your tablet PC

GNS5890 ADS-B Receiver USB stick
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Something for your tablet PC
"tablet PC"..... aint that what Moses held up... salvation.


I'm told there been sumthin simular in mobile phones fer a while..



via OZBUSDRIVER; You really need to study some more, Binghi...

I await the lumination..







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Meanwhile, the terrorists keep experimenting...

"North Korea has been sending GPS jamming signals since April 28, wreaking havoc with civilian aviation and fishing fleets. Over the last 12 days, 624 passenger planes operated by Korean Air and Asiana Airlines, and 49 foreign carriers were affected by GPS jamming and one U.S. military aircraft on the way from Beijing to Yokohama also experienced disruption. There were four close calls where passenger jets approaching Incheon and Gimpo airports abruptly shifted course when their GPS malfunctioned and landed only after circling the airports..."


The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - N.Korea's GPS Jamming Is Terrorism Pure and Simple







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GPS do have its problems...

(h/t to ExRAFRadar)

"American researchers took control of a flying drone by "hacking" into its GPS system - acting on a $1,000 (£640) dare from the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

A University of Texas at Austin team used "spoofing" - a technique where the drone mistakes the signal from hackers for the one sent from GPS satellites.

The same method may have been used to..." continues -BBC News - Researchers use spoofing to 'hack' into a flying drone






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Finally! Development of a Portable GPS Civilian Spoofer

Cool trick in a stadium with a model helicopter...UAV....yehright

But...does it scale up? Any new satellites pop into view and the spoofer has to move quickly to spoof the new signal...have to admit...pretty simple theory....

More reading ahead!

That BBC article? Bloody gone viral!

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Follow the discusion - http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ng-drones.html




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Binghi Great to see you are still staying with the program
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There's a "program"...



Whilst we is lookin at demo's, ah wonder how this went...


Offer to demonstrate ‘spoofing’ of Airservices ADS-B system... ...easy for a person (using a minimal amount of money) to create mayhem...


Potential 'spoofing' of Airservices Australia ADS-B
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Ahhhhh was waiting for this to appear. Binghi, the Smith argument was "Spoofing" targets to fool TAAATS. Note the difference?

The question is how much does this translate into the real world? Create a constellation con a basic device to believe it is seeing real satellites and direct it to travel in a predrescribed way according to shifts in the bogus constellation. Cool trick within the confines of a stadium with a model helicopter "UAV"

Noting these guys examine the system to protect it. Interesting to see what developments come out to protect against any threats.

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Only a mater of time...

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Guidence provided by GPS...


"Iran is a leader in drone manufacturing, Iran's Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi said, Fars reported.

General Vahidi spoke about the drones manufacturing during his visit to Meshed, while attending the Aviation Center opening in that city.

Iran made reports earlier that country can and will manufacture its own drones.

Iran's military has the ability to build unmanned aircraft and is in the process of doing so. Country already has several long-range aircraft with high detection capabilities along with several models of invasive drones..."




General Vahidi: Iran is a leader in drone manufacturing - Trend







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Only if TAAATS is given a month of the spoofing, paperwork filled in and the reception of data verified.

Otherwise TAAATS knows nothing of the "spoofed signal"

Clearly none of you have been through this at all.

not even you Ozbus, or you would realise the wind up is ....well unwound!
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