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Old 14th Jul 2009, 03:07
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Operating charter without an AOC - other countries?

I know in Australia you need an AOC to do any sort of charter, and while there has been talk of a 'mini' AOC for scenic flights, it doesn't actually exist. Does anyone know whether there are any other countries where you can work as a pilot by running your own small business, without getting an AOC (a'la CASA's complicated and expensive process) or similar?
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somalia maybe. Or parachte opps in Aus
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Or parachute ops in Aus
possibly not for much longer....
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Good......
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Have recently been made aware of some dimwhit in Qld running dodgey charters and holiday packages without an AOC......without a CPL.....ummmm not sure if he even has a PPL......or anything more than a GFPT and heaven knos about a medical........

Not sure I know what to do with said knowlege either!

Some very ordinary flying displays too

So Somalia or Australia!
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131 757 Jaba
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Yes......... but I fear they want a little more evidence than I have to provide.

PM me if you know more!
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There's a C310 operating out of PMQ, I am told, that will take you to Lord Howe Island. Doesn't operate under any Australian AOC.... maybe it's a Lord Howe AOC?

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Old 14th Jul 2009, 10:13
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A serious reply.........

Not aware of any country where you can operate charter without an AOC (have no first-hand experience in Somalia), however in the US of A you can instruct without it having to be under the auspices of a flying school/AOC holder.

It is of course mandaory to have an instructor rating (or CFI as they call it).
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......and my reply was serious!
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Whilst not overly informative, thanks guys for putting a smile on my face this morning!
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Krazy

Just a thought, do you work for CASA as some sort of AOC compliance checker, and needed some more tips on places to look for work?

If so your fishing trip got more bites than my last one

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Surely some African countries or perhaps Mexico or Cuba you might get away without an AOC as long as you have plenty of bribe money handy.
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I don't think joy and/or scenic flights in the USA require an AOC. Can't remember because it doesn't affect me. Probably other restrictions though.

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